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Re: Jerry Flanagan - man of mystery!!
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 09 July 17 13:42 BST (UK) »
The 1855 Manchester death gives age as 65 (GRO index)
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Re: Jerry Flanagan - man of mystery!!
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 09 July 17 15:58 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the info everyone!
I have since found 1868 remarriage in Leeds, Yorkshire for Catherine Costello to John Smith. Her father listed as Jeremiah Flannigan, she was a widow.

Haven't had any luck locating definatively Catherine or Margaret with spouses in census records.

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Re: Jerry Flanagan - man of mystery!!
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 09 July 17 16:02 BST (UK) »
There is this marriage (though it doesn't help to find Jerry, except that presumably he was still alive in 1862 to give consent?):
Catherine FLANAGAN (minor, Spinster, Marybone) married John COSTELLO (minor, shoemaker, Bachelor, Scotland Rd) on  7 Apr 1862 at St Peter, Liverpool

Groom's Father: James Costello, Nailmaker
Bride's Father: Jeremiah Flannigan, Shoemaker
Witness: Patrick Kennedy; Bridget Coleman
Married by Banns

The image for this St Peter's CE Liverpool marriage:-

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89DF-KCMF?i=104&cat=122430


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Re: Jerry Flanagan - man of mystery!!
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 09 July 17 16:27 BST (UK) »
There is also Margaret FLANAGAN (single, shoebinder) married Joseph NOLAN (single, shoemaker) on 17 August 1856 at St George's Manchester

Groom's Father: Patrick Nolan, shoemaker
Bride's Father: Jeremiah Flanagan, shoemaker
Witness: John and Mary Cartwright
Married by Banns

Here is the image for this marriage at St George's CE Manchester:-

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89LX-29CY?i=470&cat=839121


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Re: Jerry Flanagan - man of mystery!!
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 11 July 17 09:50 BST (UK) »

Check this census maybe?
Jeremiah Flannigan
1841
London, Surrey
Birth Year 1796
Age 45
St Saviour Southwark

See if he had his wife Margaret with him but not Ann?

Jeremiah Flannigan   45 labourer
Mary Flannigan   30
Mary Flannigan   7 born Surrey
Catharine Flannigan   2 born Surrey

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Re: Jerry Flanagan - man of mystery!!
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 11 July 17 10:29 BST (UK) »
Do you have any of the other family members in later censuses, or is everyone missing?

As youngest "daughter" Catherine is aged 11 and was born in Ireland, the family may still have been in Ireland in 1841.

Have you considered that Catherine may be Jerry's grand daughter rather than a daughter? (possibly daughter of widowed daughter Ann aged 34?) If Ann is a widow shouldn't she have a different surname? You say that daughter Mary is married to Michael Gilligan at this time so there are obviously a couple of inaccuracies in what is written on the census. I may be wrong with the Catherine as grand daughter theory of course.  ;)

Did Mary and Michael Gilligan marry in England?

Name:   Mary Flannigan
Age:   Full Age
Marriage Date:   27 Dec 1847
Marriage Place:   Liverpool, St Nicholas, Lancashire, England
Father:   George Flannigan image says Gerard (shoemaker)
Spouse:   Michael Gilligan

witnesses: Patrick & Bridget Bran......

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Re: Jerry Flanagan - man of mystery!!
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 11 July 17 11:21 BST (UK) »
There is this marriage (though it doesn't help to find Jerry, except that presumably he was still alive in 1862 to give consent?):
Catherine FLANAGAN (minor, Spinster, Marybone) married John COSTELLO (minor, shoemaker, Bachelor, Scotland Rd) on  7 Apr 1862 at St Peter, Liverpool

Groom's Father: James Costello, Nailmaker
Bride's Father: Jeremiah Flannigan, Shoemaker
Witness: Patrick Kennedy; Bridget Coleman
Married by Banns

If it is correct that Catherine was a minor then she must have been born after 1842. The remarriage  to John Smith says she was age 26 so not your Catherine.

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Re: Jerry Flanagan - man of mystery!!
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 11 July 17 13:40 BST (UK) »
If she was 26 at time of second marriage, then she would be around 20 at time of first marriage. I think this makes her a minor being under age of 21. I do think it is same Catherine.

Thanks for input everyone. I have found a few more things since posts have been made, and may now have a clue where the family were from in Ireland!

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Re: Jerry Flanagan - man of mystery!!
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 11 July 17 13:50 BST (UK) »
I agree that the marriages are for the same Catherine but if the 1851 one in the opening post was age 11 she would have been born in 1839/40 not 1841/42 which is why I thought there were 2 different Catherine.