Liscard Census - "Rock" place name

[Kelownagurl]

I have an 1851 census for my SINCLAIR family and the name of the street/place etc simply says ROCK.

I have searched and found Rock Villa, Rock Ferry, Fort Perch Rock.

Their son George was born there and on several censuses and his birth cert, it says he was born in Cheshire - some say Birkenhead, some say simply Liscard, and some say New Brighton.  The birth index says Wirral.

The Birkenhead entry makes me think it might be Rock Ferry area, but the New Brighton one makes me think it was up closer to Fort Perch Rock?

Rock Villa on Wellington Rd in new Brighton is also a possibility.

John SINCLAIR was working as a gardener at the time so maybe he was working for at a large estate?

I've attached the census page as well as the first page which holds a description of the area.  I'm not familiar enough with Liscard to completely understand the boundaries.

I also searched on the pages before and after the census listing but most just say "Rock" with no other info. 

Occasionally, on the same page and pages following is Magazine Road, and on previous pages Mill Road, and further back, Rake Lane - all in there New Brighton area.  Do I assume that the listings are all close together geographically?

Thanks for any help you can provide.

[heatherjulie]

Here is a map from 1874

http://maps.nls.uk/view/102340972

[Kelownagurl]

Here is a map from 1874

http://maps.nls.uk/view/102340972

Thanks, that's a helpful map.  I see that there is also a ROCK POINT near Magazine Road area too.  Perhaps that's where they lived.

[Blue70]

There was a Rock Point House. It had extensive grounds so would be the sort of place that would have employed gardeners:-

Rock Point House... "Stood on the high ground which later became the site of Tower Grounds. Once the home of Captain Molyneux and his family."

http://www.historyofwallasey.co.uk/wallasey/A_to_Z_of_Wallasey_Buildings/index.html

New Brighton Tower built in its grounds included a ballroom... "The Beatles played at the Tower Ballroom 27 times, more than at any other venue in the United Kingdom except the Cavern Club in nearby Liverpool."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Brighton_Tower


Blue

[garstonite]

is this your Arthur and Margaret -

Name     Arthur Sinclair   
 Event Type     Intended marriage   
 Event Date     08 Oct 1846   
 Event Place     Cheshire, England   
 Gender     Male   
 Spouse's Name    Margaret Robinson   

[Certacito]

Had me baffled being a local, so I put it out there on one of the Facebook local history groups.  In the area in question there was a small lane/alleyway named Rock Cottages.  The road sign is still there but the cottages are long gone.  It is situated off Rake Lane and possibly before the later building came out on Magazine Lane.  It is lane not road but might have changed at some time?

[Kelownagurl]

Had me baffled being a local, so I put it out there on one of the Facebook local history groups.  In the area in question there was a small lane/alleyway named Rock Cottages.  The road sign is still there but the cottages are long gone.  It is situated off Rake Lane and possibly before the later building came out on Magazine Lane.  It is lane not road but might have changed at some time?

Oh that sounds promising, thanks.  What is the nearest cross road on Rake Lane?  I'll take a look on google street view and see if I can find the sign. 

[Kelownagurl]

is this your Arthur and Margaret -

Name     Arthur Sinclair   
 Event Type     Intended marriage   
 Event Date     08 Oct 1846   
 Event Place     Cheshire, England   
 Gender     Male   
 Spouse's Name    Margaret Robinson

Thanks, but I don't have an Arthur - my ancestor was John Sinclair.  I do have all of the BMD docs tracked down now too.  

[Kelownagurl]

I found this!