Author Topic: Fannie Friedman SCHWARTZ maiden name ? From Russia to USA  (Read 18504 times)

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Re: Fannie Scwartz maiden name ? From Russia to USA via .Scotland and ??I
« Reply #9 on: Monday 10 July 17 16:57 BST (UK) »
Then it sounds like the one who died in 1924 is not Fannie's husband. 

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Re: Fannie Scwartz maiden name ? From Russia to USA via .Scotland and ??I
« Reply #10 on: Monday 10 July 17 17:01 BST (UK) »
Man with DNA connection doesnt  know much about her but says her mother's name was  Chaya Rivka. 

And she was born near Latvia Lithuania border

Her daughter was named Naomi ..Nellie in USA


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Re: Fannie Scwartz maiden name ? From Russia to USA via .Scotland and ??I
« Reply #11 on: Monday 10 July 17 21:58 BST (UK) »
1920 census
Philadelphia ward
Aron 50 b1870   Roumania immigrated 1887 naturalized

 Wife Fannie Schwartz 47
Tailor own shop

Saul 24
Esther 24 Helen 3 Edith 2 sylvan 0

Anita 20 a
abraham16
Morris 10
Rose 7
Leon 6

(Info Sent from a cousin because I couldn't find where I'd seen it before)




 


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Re: Fannie Scwartz maiden name ? From Russia to USA via .Scotland and ??I
« Reply #12 on: Monday 10 July 17 22:22 BST (UK) »
When posting information you've found please, please, PLEASE spell names correctly. This is the SCHWARTZ family in Philadelphia in 1920 census-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M6YP-87M
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!


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Re: Fannie Scwartz maiden name ? From Russia to USA via .Scotland and ??I
« Reply #13 on: Monday 10 July 17 23:22 BST (UK) »
Major apologies

 I wonder if it's too late to change title

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Re: Fannie SCHWARTZ maiden name ? From Russia to USA via .Scotland and ??I
« Reply #14 on: Monday 10 July 17 23:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Brigidmac,

I've made the correction for you.

Spades
ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: Fannie SCHWARTZ maiden name ? From Russia to USA via .Scotland and ??I
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 11 July 17 06:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks ....dreadful mistake to make misspelling surname

Reminds me of school punishment when I had to write 100 lines " I must attempt to be more studios in approach"
That lesson obviously didn't set in

Can anyone tell me what anglicised version of"  Chaya.   Rivka  " would be please

Could Rivka be Rebecca ??
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Re: Fannie SCHWARTZ maiden name ? From Russia to USA via .Scotland and ??I
« Reply #16 on: Monday 07 August 17 21:53 BST (UK) »
Hi. The guy with the DNA connection here:

Part of the issue we're facing is that Nellie/Naomi had a bunch of siblings, all with very common names, some were anglicized from their Hebrew/Yiddish names, others were just chosen arbitrarily.

Fannie's mother:
Chaya Rivka ________ (never immigrated)

Father unknown (never immigrated).  Right now we've got Friedman as the missing surname here, but to be honest, I don't remember where I got that from, and I think it came from gov't records, not a first hand source.

Naomi's Parents:
Aaron Schwartz (entered via NYC)
Fannie ________ (entered via NYC)

Naomi (b 1901) (entered via NYC ~1904-1908) 

Her siblings, it is unclear how many of them immigrated vs were born in the US.  Naomi was among the oldest children and came here as a toddler.

Jean
Anne
Mo
Morris
Eppie
William
Sophie
Nita (confirmed youngest b USA 1909)

Those are the official siblings, names were given from Naomi's daughter (still living). From what I can tell from this conversation, there is a strong possibility we've combined two families who adopted strikingly similar names.

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Re: Fannie SCHWARTZ maiden name ? From Russia to USA via .Scotland and ??I
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 09 August 17 18:52 BST (UK) »
Similar names for children can be because they are actually cousins and name children after the same ancestors .

Hopefully we.ll be able to work out how our DNA matches eventually  if the Latvia link isn't a red herring .

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