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Nellie Chandler, born Lewisham c1902
« on: Tuesday 11 July 17 09:32 BST (UK) »
In the 1911 Census Nellie Chandler, aged 9, born Lewisham in Kent, is listed as living with her grandmother Margaret Chandler in Hayfield, Derbyshire.  I have been trying, and failing, to discover anything about this Nellie.  I cannot find any likely GRO birth entry 1901-03.  Margaret had three children:  Frederick J Carrington (1873, Farnworth near Bolton), Elizabeth A Carrington (1875, Farnworth), and Charlotte Hannah Howarth (1885, Sheffield).  I do not know which of these was the parent of Nellie.  In 1911 Frederick Chandler was unmarried and living with his mother and Nellie.  Charlotte had married in 1907 and was living elsewhere.  I have checked using the surnames Carrington, Howarth and Chandler (with variations).  Can anyone help identify Nellie Chandler from Lewisham?

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Re: Nellie Chandler, born Lewisham c1902
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 11 July 17 09:42 BST (UK) »
Nellie could be a nickname so her birth will be under another name.

There is this one Dec 1901 Lewisham

Chandler Lilian Margaret 1d 1150
Chandler Lilias Margaret 1d 1150 - MMN Jones per GRO index

If her grandmother was Margaret there is a link there



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Re: Nellie Chandler, born Lewisham c1902
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 11 July 17 09:43 BST (UK) »
Most likely it is Emily Lily Alexandra Chandler born Lewisham 1902 mmn Purkiss.

There's a Lewisham marriage in 1901 - Frederick Charles Chandler and Emily Elizabeth Purkiss are on the same register page.

EDIT - no, it's not that family. Emily Lily (Lily) has siblings Frederick (1903) Ivy (1905), Daisy (1909).
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Re: Nellie Chandler, born Lewisham c1902
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 11 July 17 09:52 BST (UK) »
Where do all the different surnames come from - Chandler - Carrington - Howarth  ???

A family tree has Nellie Howarth daughter of Charlotte but not sure if this is correct.

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Re: Nellie Chandler, born Lewisham c1902
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 11 July 17 10:02 BST (UK) »
Many thanks Milliepede and Shaun.  The Lilian Margaret 1901 looks possible - I had noticed it but couldn't reconcile it with Fred still being single in 1911 and having no link to a Jones, or to living in Kent.

No doubt the certificate would prove this one way or the other.

Frederick was James, not Charles, alas.

Margaret Prince (1849, Chester/Great Boughton) seems to have had three husbands, although as yet I've only got a GRO marriage entry for Thomas Chandler (1889, Salford).

I saw a family tree while browsing Ancestry at the weekend - there was no support evidence for alleging Charlotte as the mother, and the tree even listed a fourth husband sandwiched between Howarth and Chandler (with no GRO reference provided, or that I could discover).  Therefore I remain sceptical, and it's why I've turned to RootsChat colleagues for help.

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Re: Nellie Chandler, born Lewisham c1902
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 11 July 17 10:09 BST (UK) »
Could be Charlotte - she was 17 in 1901  :-\ but then the birth of Nellie would be under Howarth not Chandler and I don't see one.  Plus the family aren't in Kent unless she was sent away to give birth.

So Margaret Prince becomes Carrington then Howarth then Chandler - intriguing!

I see her father is Richard Prince deceased waterman? on the 1889 marriage.

What became of the other sister Elizabeth Carrington?
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Re: Nellie Chandler, born Lewisham c1902
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 11 July 17 10:14 BST (UK) »
It's not Lilias Margaret. You can find her in the 1911 census easily enough.
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Re: Nellie Chandler, born Lewisham c1902
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 11 July 17 10:15 BST (UK) »
Is this Margaret in 1881

George Howarth 34
Margaret 29
Frederick J 7 - birth Frederick James Carrington MMN Prince
Elizabeth 5
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Re: Nellie Chandler, born Lewisham c1902
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 11 July 17 10:28 BST (UK) »
Shaun - good spot.

Milliepede - that's the correct 1881 Howarth census reference.  Charlotte's birth was registered as Howard in 1885.  Margaret is at Runcorn (with father Richard) in 1861 and I have the 1891 Chandler entry in Runcorn and the 1901 entry in Birkenhead.  Elizabeth Ann seems to be in Hulme (Manchester) in 1891 and South Manchester in 1901 - no link there to Kent.

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