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Re: Nellie Chandler, born Lewisham c1902
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 11 July 17 10:34 BST (UK) »
This wouldn't be the same Margaret as well would it?!

Marriage 1867 Farnworth

Margaret Jane Prince 18 father Richard Prince waterman
William Brownbell/bill 21 father Thomas Brownbell/bill shoemaker
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Re: Nellie Chandler, born Lewisham c1902
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 11 July 17 10:43 BST (UK) »
Bear with me  :D

Margaret Brownhill
George Howarth

Marriage Jun 1877 Bolton

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Re: Nellie Chandler, born Lewisham c1902
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 11 July 17 10:45 BST (UK) »
Brownbell was the fourth husband on the Ancestry tree - but positioned third not first.  I've not got Jane as a second name anywhere but Richard the waterman backs things up.

I've also noted the 1877 marriage, Bolton reg office or Reg Attending, for George Hawarth (Howarth) and Margaret Brownhill.  What a convoluted business this is!  Perhaps she never married James Carrington (allegedly born Ireland, 1849)?

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Re: Nellie Chandler, born Lewisham c1902
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 11 July 17 10:53 BST (UK) »
Can't see further details on the 1877 marriage - maybe someone has access and could confirm her father for us. 

Yes James Carrington may not have made it up the aisle for some reason. 

Brownbell is definitely the first husband as she is only 18 and a spinster. 

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Re: Nellie Chandler, born Lewisham c1902
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 11 July 17 12:56 BST (UK) »
If the 1867 marriage is of my Margaret (age right, father matches, location just across the Mersey from her Runcorn home - just the oddity of Jane as a second name), then it's another of life's co-incidences that this marriage was at Farnworth in Widnes and she then ended up (unmarried?) with James Carrington in Farnworth in Bolton (c15 miles away) just six years later.

James Carrington died in Farnworth (Bolton) in 1876, and the timing of this is right for an 1877 marriage.

However - we're still scratching our heads over a birth registration for Nellie Chandler, born 1902.

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Re: Nellie Chandler, born Lewisham c1902
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 11 July 17 14:04 BST (UK) »
Yes it's a real head scratcher.

Could there be another child we don't know about apart from
Frederick Carrington
Elizabeth Carrington
Charlotte Howarth

The Chandler surname for Nellie doesn't match any of the above candidates. 

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Re: Nellie Chandler, born Lewisham c1902
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 11 July 17 14:24 BST (UK) »
There's a picture of Frederick J Carrington with mother Margaret on the tree.  Pity we can't ask her who Nellie was!
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Re: Nellie Chandler, born Lewisham c1902
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 11 July 17 14:39 BST (UK) »
The 2 Jun 1867 marriage of Margaret Jane Prince was witnessed by James Parr and Mary Ann Parr.

These people may be the James Parr and Mary Hannah Prince who married 13 May 1866 at Farnworth - her father named as Richard Prince, waterman. Margaret Prince was a witness.

In the 1871 census Margaret Brownhill, 20 b Chester, is in Runcorn as a visitor in the household of the widowed Mary Ann Parr, 21 b Chester.

It looks as though Margaret and Mary Ann (aka Mary Hannah) were sisters?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Nellie Chandler, born Lewisham c1902
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 11 July 17 15:13 BST (UK) »
Yes - Mary Hannah married James Parr but he died aged 21 in 1870.  She then married Charles Moores in 1871.  In 1891 the 15 yr old Elizabeth A Carrington is living with her aunt and uncle Moores in Openshaw (Manchester).

I'm sure I found Elizabeth in Gorton (Manchester) in 1901 but can't relocate the reference.  I can't find her in 1911 as yet.

Thanks for your help and suggestions.