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Re: Trying to find relative of Isabella Haig Stevenson
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 13 July 17 13:24 BST (UK) »
There are quite a few Duncans in Gamrie 1930 although none of the addresses we have so far but this one looks good...

DUNCAN JOHN, Proprietor Occupier
FARM MILL OF FORTRIE, GAMRIE
1930
VR009100100-

Same one with..
HOUSE ON MILL OF FORTRIE

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: Trying to find relative of Isabella Haig Stevenson
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 13 July 17 14:08 BST (UK) »
Ahhh...Just did a quick search before I go out &.....

"Mill Of Fortrie U98b C97b At Backhill Of Fortrie Via Mill Of Fortrie To A948 At Burngrains Auchnagatt Ellon Aberdeenshire AB41 8XB"

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: Trying to find relative of Isabella Haig Stevenson
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 13 July 17 16:23 BST (UK) »
As I said there are Backhills all over the place. Just for the sake of completeness, here are 117 photographs of no less than 40 (yes, forty) different places called Backhill in Moray, Banffshire and Aberdeenshire http://www.geograph.org.uk/search.php?i=73787718. There may be others that are as yet unphotographed.

I have found, so far, three quite separate places called Fortrie.

First http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ6645 or, on the old map
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=57.4985&lon=-2.5570&layers=5&b=1
I can't see a Backhill of Fortrie there, but I wonder if that is perhaps another name for Backhill of Drachlaw http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/990519 which is only a few hundred metres (or yards) from Bridge of Fortrie. This Fortrie is in the parish of Inverkeithny.

Second, the Backhill of Fortrie you referred to above. It's a different Fortrie, and a different Backhill. Here it is http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ9640. It is spelled Fortree on the old maps http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=57.4579&lon=-2.0673&layers=5&b=1 and it's in the parish of Ellon, in the real historical county of Aberdeenshire, and about 20 miles south-east of Macduff.

This is yet another Fortrie http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=57.6204&lon=-2.4413&layers=5&b=1. This one straddles the boundary between the parishes of Gamrie and King Edward, so is probably the one referred to in that 1930 VR. Here it is on a modern map http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ7358. I don't see a Mill of Fortrie named there on any map, but the first edition of the six-inch map shows and labels a mill dam at the farm of Fortrie.

If your John Duncan was at Backhill in the parish of Banff, he was not at any of these other places. He could, of course, be a relative of the Duncans at Backhill of Fortrie, or of those at Mill of Fortrie, and employed away from home, but Duncan is a very common name and it could be (probably is) just a coincidence.
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; GUTHRIE, Angus; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes/Mortlach; MENDUM, England; MOLLISON, Lethnot; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOR(R)I/E/Y, Shotts; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Angus; YOUNG, Keith

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Re: Trying to find relative of Isabella Haig Stevenson
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 13 July 17 16:33 BST (UK) »
Re Gellymill.

Gellymill is in the parish of Gamrie, just outside Macduff, which is the only town in the parish of Gamrie. Gellymill Road and Gellymill Street are both in Gamrie, They lead out from Macduff towards Gellymill. see
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=57.6657&lon=-2.4998&layers=168&b=1
on which Gellymill Street and Gellymill Road are both shown and named.

By definition, anything that is in the parish of Gamrie cannot be in the parish of Banff, which is an entirely separate parish on the other side of the River Deveron.

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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; GUTHRIE, Angus; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes/Mortlach; MENDUM, England; MOLLISON, Lethnot; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOR(R)I/E/Y, Shotts; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Angus; YOUNG, Keith

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Re: Trying to find relative of Isabella Haig Stevenson
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 13 July 17 22:54 BST (UK) »
 :o Thanks Forfarian,

40....not much to wade through  ;D

Just as well someone knows their geography as I couldn't tell by looking at that where exactly or how far from where I should have been looking but it looked good from the VR info. & of course the name John did have me speculating  ::)

So, time to go backwards as that was the closest time range from the birth (1938)?

Forfarian,

Did you notice where the residence of the only "STEVENSON GEORGE, Tenant Occupier FARM WESTER RIVEHILL ESTATE OF GREENSKARES, GAMRIE" (1930) was & is it anywhere near any of the original place names we have listed please?

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: Trying to find relative of Isabella Haig Stevenson
« Reply #23 on: Friday 14 July 17 00:59 BST (UK) »
Just a quick note to say thank you to all of you trying to help me find my fathers ancestry.

This was something I should have asked my fathers mother before she died, but there was never to right time to do so,  that is why I would like to find out what I can so that my children will know where  the Scottish ancestry comes from.

Your help is very much appreciated.

Thanks from Teresa from Australia

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Re: Trying to find relative of Isabella Haig Stevenson
« Reply #24 on: Friday 14 July 17 03:33 BST (UK) »
I think we've all been there but strangely although we would be curious it never occurred to us that one day that person may not be there to answer that curiosity & it only then becomes a real need to know when it's too late  ???  ::)

Back to basics...

Theresa,

Having re-read your info. am I right in thinking that George was not Isabella's father but her g/father or am I mixing the wording up?

"We know that Isabella Haig Stevenson's mother was Margaret Ann Stevenson whose mother was Margaret (Maggie) Walker Barron and the father was George Stevenson."

Can you tell us where exactly Isabella was born, who her father was please & his occupation?

Have you found George, Margaret Walker & Margaret Ann on any census'?

I can't find a marriage for Margaret Walker Barron & George Stevenson.
Do you have the marriage, when/where?

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie, MacDonald, MacInnes, MacIntyre, MacKinnon, Steele, Walker

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, MacKinnon, MacPhee

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Re: Trying to find relative of Isabella Haig Stevenson
« Reply #25 on: Friday 14 July 17 09:01 BST (UK) »
Ok this is from Margaret stevensons death  register

MArgaret Stevenson domestic servant died 15 December 1937  at Wesley cottage gellymill father ?Stevenson farm servant and mother maggie Barron domestic servant (dec) informant Geo grant (brother in law)

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Re: Trying to find relative of Isabella Haig Stevenson
« Reply #26 on: Friday 14 July 17 09:11 BST (UK) »
Yes, I think carefully backwards is the way to go with this one.

Rivehill and Greenskares are east of Macduff, still in the parish of Gamrie. See http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/593879 - there are several variants of Greenskares in the vicinity. Click on the map and you will get a bigger version that you can move around. It's about 5 miles from Gellymill.

This is the Greenskares (Greenskairs) area on the first edition six-inch map
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=15&lat=57.6562&lon=-2.3627&layers=5&b=1
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; GUTHRIE, Angus; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes/Mortlach; MENDUM, England; MOLLISON, Lethnot; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOR(R)I/E/Y, Shotts; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Angus; YOUNG, Keith