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Charlie Freeze, born c. 1910, Coleman Co., TX
« on: Wednesday 12 July 17 22:46 BST (UK) »
Looking for whereabouts, death, etc. after 1952 of Charles "Charlie" Freeze, born about 1910 in Coleman Co., TX.  In 1952 he was mentioned in his father's obit as living in Houston, TX.  No record of him after that.  He had a brother Jack, who lived and died in Graham, Young Co., TX.  Their parents were Thomas Mont Freeze and Pearl Funderburg.

Also looking for name of Pearl's second husband, an unknown Jeffries.  Pearl and Mont were divorced and she married this Jeffries.  She died in 1932 and is buried in Graham.

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Re: Charlie Freeze, born c. 1910, Coleman Co., TX
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 July 17 23:56 BST (UK) »
Possible death in California?  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VP75-MKR

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Re: Charlie Freeze, born c. 1910, Coleman Co., TX
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 13 July 17 00:41 BST (UK) »
Possibly, the date of birth would be about right.  I have his children's names, will check to see if any of them lived or live in CA.  If I could see the death certificate, it might be helpful.

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Re: Charlie Freeze, born c. 1910, Coleman Co., TX
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 13 July 17 02:23 BST (UK) »
Texas Marriage Index:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV1C-RF6B
Pearl FREEZE
A C JEFFRIES
Married 21 Jul 1927, Young, Texas

Was trying to find Pearl in 1930....and ended up on the following trail (or tangent?):

When Mrs  Pearl JEFFRIES  died 1932 age 36,  (Charles is the informant) she is listed as married, so JEFFRIES is still alive. When Mont died 1952, his obit mentions 2 children, sons Jack and Charles, and 5 grandchildren.

1913: Son Jack was born 1913  and died 1977 in Jacksboro TX.
His wife  was listed as  Mrs LaFaye Freeze.

1930: J.C. FREEZE age 16,  is with his divorced father T.M. FREEZE (39) at the home of Mort's parents, in Graham.    Jack is listed as a House Painter.

1930: At Shawnee Street in Graham, is this family:
Head: Oba MILLER 33, w, m, b Missouri (and parents), Boiler Maker at Oil Field.
Wife: Pearl MILLER 32, wife, b Texas (and parents)
Step Son: J.C. FREEZE 17, unm, b Texas (and parents), Labor at Furniture Store.
Rented Home. Oba first ever married age 19, Pearl first ever married age 13.

1940: At Shawnee Street in Graham is:
Head: Jack FREEZE 26 with his wife Mary June (nee BOTKIN) and their son.
They had married Dec 1930.   Jack is a Builders Concrete Finisher.
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=83481479
When Mary June died 1973,  she had one son (the one in 1940) and a daughter.
Jack remarried in 1975 to La Faye Guinn.
He died in 1977, a retired Plasterer, WWII vet. His death cert names his father as Mort, and the Finda Grave mentions again,  one son (the one in 1940) and a daughter.

So…Pearl MILLER in 1930? Is she  the mother of Charles and Jack FREEZE, who died as JEFFRIES in 1932.  And has Jack been listed twice in 1930 census, once with Mom, once with Dad?

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Re: Charlie Freeze, born c. 1910, Coleman Co., TX
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 13 July 17 02:47 BST (UK) »
Well!  So it appears Pearl was married to this Miller after she married Jeffries?  But she apparently changed her name back to Jeffries before her death?  Age would be a little off, since she is listed as age 32 in 1930 and dying in 1932 at age 36 (died young from complications from car wreck according to my aunt), but must be her.  Thanks so much for this - totally unknown to me.  And thanks for Jeffries' initials and marriage date.

Also, it looks like the Charlie Freeze who died in CA in 1954 is not the one I am looking for.  This man had a different wife and had lived in CA many years.

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Re: Charlie Freeze, born c. 1910, Coleman Co., TX
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 13 July 17 03:10 BST (UK) »
It does seem a bit of a coincidence, for Pearl Miller in 1930 not to be the former Mrs Pearl BREEZE, doesn't it! It's a shame her death cert doesn't record her residence address.

If it is her, a few possibilities:

1) The family was really JEFFRIES - enumerator made a mistake when writing up his book.
2) Oba is not "Oba' but rather a set of initials.
3) She separated from JEFFRIES or he died,  and she took up with MILLER, but was never married to him.

'Oba MILLER' was a Boiler Maker. 

In a Directory 1923, Waco Texas , is an  A.C JEFFRIES, Boiler Maker, Belle Meade Shops.

Was the California Charles' wife Effie Lee COLE? Are you able to tell us your Charles' wife's name?

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Re: Charlie Freeze, born c. 1910, Coleman Co., TX
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 13 July 17 03:53 BST (UK) »
1909 - Charles' birth:
FREEZE
Born 5 March 1909, Coleman
Infant of Mont FREEZE
Certificate Number:27222

Charles FREEZE who died 1954 Alameda CA, birth recorded on death index as 17 March 1909.

Oh, I see it was Effie Lee Cole who was your Charley's wife:

1929: MARRIAGE, Oklahoma
Charley FREEZE  21, of Graham Young County TX,
& Miss Effie COLE 19,of Graham Young County TX,
Applied for their marriage licence in Oklahoma, and married there (Watters, Elder County) on 25 Oct 1929.   Witness: Mary B LLEWELLYN of Watters, Okla, and F M FREEZE of Graham TX

1930 CENSUS :  West First Street, Graham, Young, TX
Charley FREEZE 21, b TX (& parents), Laborer, Paving Co. Married age 20
Wife: Effie FREEZE 19, b TX (& parents). Married age  18.


Effie Lee Cole Freeze HOGAN
Born 1911 Rural, Navarro, TX
Remarried in 1941 to: Jesse Edward HOGAN.
Died 1987
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=5732404&ref=acom

Who was the wife of Californian Charles FREEZE?

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Re: Charlie Freeze, born c. 1910, Coleman Co., TX
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 13 July 17 06:07 BST (UK) »
In 1940:
Charley FREEZE is listed as married, living at Bishop Addition, Justice Precinct, Young Co, TX
Age 32, married, wife not present.
With his and Effie's 3 children, C., B., and W. (same names as those in Effie Lee Cole Freeze HOGAN's Finda Grave). He has a Housekeeper, Lila Rogers, age 22.

The elder daughter with Charlie in 1940, her birth index:
Parents are Effie Lee COLE and Charles Lawson FREEZE
http://files.usgwarchives.net/tx/young/vitals/births/1930/youngb30.txt

And the son in 1940, his birth index:
http://files.usgwarchives.net/tx/young/vitals/births/1934/youngb34.txt
Parents are Effie COLE and Charles Lawson FREEZE


Now moving to the Charles FREEZE who died in 1954 Alameda, wife Jonnie R Cantrell.
There is this - unproven as far as it presents online - maybe they've just presumed the California death is correct...
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Freeze-376

Combined actual records show that:
Charles FREEZE  married Johnnie Roslette CANTRELL in 1925 in Archer Cty, TX  - when she was only 14*  (according to her Census in 1930).
Charles being born 1909, would therefore only be about 16 in 1925.
They had a son born 1928.
By 1930, Johnnie has moved on, remarried.

(* Recalling, that Pearl Miller stated in a census that she first ever  married at age 13!)

Here's the trail:

DEATH CERT 1980
Lynwood Clifford DUNCAN
Born 21 Feb 1928 in Texas, died 30 Jan 1980, Beaumont, Jefferson TX
Parents : William S DUNCAN and Jonnie CANTRELL
Informant: Jonnie DUNCAN.

He was born FREEZE:

BIRTH 1928: Tarrant Co., TX
Clifford Lynwood FREEZE  b 21 Feb 1928
Mother: Jonnie Roslette CANTRELL
Father: Charlie FREEZE

It appears that in 1961, Clifford's mother Jonnie applied to have the details of his birth 'filled in.
Original document: 
Un-named FREEZE, born 21 Feb 1928, Fort Worth, Tarrant, TX
Mother: Jonnie CANTRELL

Correct Information:
Child: Clifford Lynwood FREEZE
Mother: Jonnie Roslette CANTRELL

Correction on affidavit 1961, by Mrs Jonnie DUNCAN.
With details from Certificate of Marriage: Charles FREEZE and Jonnie CANTRELL 18 Oct 1925, Archer Cy, TX

In 1930 CENSUS , Fort Worth TX
Head: Brody L FISHER 21, b Tennessee (parents TN & KY), Truck Driver, Ice Company
Wife: Johnnie FISHER 19, b Texas (parents TX), Sandwiches, Lunch Factory
Step-Son: Clifford L FREEZE 2½, b TX (parents TX)
Brody was first married at age 21
Johnnie was first married at age 14   :o

So I'm thinking Charley FREEZE aka, Charles Lawson FREEZE
Married 1) 1925 to Johnnie R CANTRELL, 1 son Clifford. Divorced by 1929. She remarried twice.
Married 2) 1929 to Effie Lee COLE, 3 children. By 1940, he's alone with kids, she remarried 1941.

Does this still firmly place Charles died 1954,  out of your picture?

Cheers
AMBLY
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Re: Charlie Freeze, born c. 1910, Coleman Co., TX
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 13 July 17 07:25 BST (UK) »
Wow, this is getting more complicated by the minute.  I don't think I would ever have put all this together.  So we do think the Charlie Freeze who died in Alameda, CA in 1954 was the right Charlie?  Wish I knew why he moved to CA.  My aunt said many years ago that Charlie "was missing and never found after the big explosion in south Texas".   I think she was referring to Texas City, but that was in 1947 and he, as stated, was mentioned in his father's obit in 1952, so she was wrong about that.

Bobby Jack, son of Charlie and Effie, apparently took his step-father's name after 1941, as he was known as Hogan thereafter.