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Re: Daniel Brown. b1873 Southampton.
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 13 July 17 05:27 BST (UK) »
Hi again, I would love to know where the Maria Hancock who married the William Robinson in Sept qtr 1859 Poole is in 1861, as I have located the other couple shown on the page??
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William Robinson keeps cropping up, there's a Maria Robinson Hancock married in 1879, Poole.
I think William may have died in jail at Portland.

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Re: Daniel Brown. b1873 Southampton.
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 13 July 17 08:08 BST (UK) »
I think Maria is Maria Grace Hancock b1834 Poole, baptised 16 Jan 1835 in Poole. Mother Anne Davis, father Frances Hancock. Anne and Maria are in the 1851 at Stokes Alley, Saint James, Poole. Anne is a widow.  In 1841 they are at Lagland Street, St James, Poole, still no husband for Anne. Frances and Anne married 30 June 1834, Saint James, Poole.

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Re: Daniel Brown. b1873 Southampton.
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 13 July 17 13:55 BST (UK) »
Hi again, possibly Samuel in 1851 census:-

Daniel Brown 59 b Trent, Somerset
Hannah 59
Eliza 29
Susan 23
SAMUEL 21
Ellen 18
Ann Elizabeth 3 Grandaughter b Yeovil
All others b Queen Camel, Somerset
Residing Hound Street, Sherborne, Dorset
Census ref HO107/1859/247/5

In 1841 High Street, Queen Camel, Wincanton family excluding Daniel, Eliza a Thirza
Census ref HO107/937/ 10/20 / 14

That  baptism for Maria Grace shows her father FRANCIS was a Mariner, so not surprising he was not at home.

" The Brown family living next door to the widowed Maria Brown in 1891( Your initial post) " is I firmly beieve the son of Samuel & Maria, registered as Francis Samuel but chose to call himself Francis Robert from his marriage to Rosea Best 1885 until his death ?
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Re: Daniel Brown. b1873 Southampton.
« Reply #12 on: Friday 14 July 17 03:14 BST (UK) »
Hi again, I would love to know where the Maria Hancock who married the William Robinson in Sept qtr 1859 Poole is in 1861, as I have located the other couple shown on the page??
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There's a William Robinson living in Poole in 1861 but he's a widower. RG 9/1340


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Re: Daniel Brown. b1873 Southampton.
« Reply #13 on: Friday 14 July 17 20:39 BST (UK) »
Hi,

This is the 1859 marriage,

Saint Thomas, Poole
September 8th 1859

William ROBINSON
20 
Bachelor
Seaman
Green's passage
Father: Edward ROBINSON,  Coast Guard

Maria HANCOCK
19
Spinster
Green's passage
Father:  ---    ---




Death
Maria ROBBINSON*    Dec Q 1859    Poole    5a  168
Age:  20
 

Burial
St James, Poole
Maria ROBBINSON*
Poole
October 29th 1860
Age:  20


*note the double B spelling on the GRO index and image and also her burial.


Her death would fit with the William ROBINSON widower in 1861 that you've found.


However because of her age and that there is no father mentioned on the marriage certificate, I think that this could be Maria,


1851  HO107/1855  f.257  p.25    Poole, Dorset
13 Green's Alley

HANCOCK
Thomas          Head    M    71    Tailor                     Dorset  Steep Hill
Ann                  Wife    M    65                                       "        Poole
Jane                Daur    U    33    School Mistress          "       Poole
Maria    Grand-Daur    U    11    Scholar                       "       Poole
Thomas        Cousin    U    16    Agl Labourer              "        Poole




Oddly in 1841 there is no Maria HANCOCK living with this family but there is a Maria BROWN of the right age. I wonder if they are the same person? 

I can't find a definite birth for a Maria BROWN or HANCOCK in the right place at the right time.


1841   
Perry Garden

HANCOCK
Thomas        55    Taylor
Ann               50
Jane              20
Frederic        14
Aldolphus      10
Thomas           6
Maria BROWN    1

All born in county.


Hope this helps :)

Regards,
Daisy
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Re: Daniel Brown. b1873 Southampton.
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 15 July 17 01:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Daisy,
Thank you for all that info, it helps to explain the Robinson connection but I don't think it is the same Maria Hancock / Brown the mother of Daniel who was b1873.  Also there is Maria Robinson Hancock who married in 1879. Maria is still alive in 1891 living with Daniel.