Author Topic: Scotland from Ireland  (Read 2425 times)

Online aghadowey

  • RootsChat Honorary
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 51,354
    • View Profile
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

Offline isobelw

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,566
  • Gran & Granpa Clotworthy
    • View Profile
Re: Scotland from Ireland
« Reply #10 on: Friday 14 July 17 22:11 BST (UK) »
I think in 1881 they were actually in Dennistoun ( 4 Bright Street) 644/3 86/5. Transcriptions on the various sites all vary - ancestry and Scotlandspeople give  Patrick as age 36 but Findmypast says 30. On Ancestry and FindMyPast Bridget is age 29 but on Scotlandspeople she is age 2!! Two children - Arthur John age 3 and Mary age 2 match with children shown in 1891. The Patrick in Barony is married to a Margaret.
Isobel

Clotworthy, McMahon, Saunderson, Culley (Ireland & Scotland)
Weatherall, Greer (Ireland & Scotland)
Hamilton, Johnston, Dawson, Rennie, Wright (Clackmannanshire)

Offline Forfarian

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 15,078
  • http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ruz/
    • View Profile
Re: Scotland from Ireland
« Reply #11 on: Friday 14 July 17 22:25 BST (UK) »
I think in 1881 they were actually in Dennistoun ( 4 Bright Street) 644/3 86/5. Transcriptions on the various sites all vary - ancestry and Scotlandspeople give  Patrick as age 36 but Findmypast says 30. On Ancestry and FindMyPast Bridget is age 29 but on Scotlandspeople she is age 2!! Two children - Arthur John age 3 and Mary age 2 match with children shown in 1891. The Patrick in Barony is married to a Margaret
so you need to look at the original image on Scotland's People and (a) make up your own mind what it says and (b) tell SP if you think their index is wrong.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

Offline Lensmeister

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 761
  • https://neilsfhsite.wordpress.com
    • View Profile
Re: Scotland from Ireland
« Reply #12 on: Friday 14 July 17 22:32 BST (UK) »
Dennistoun does feature in this side of the family.

Sarah Mulholland was born in Dennistoun in 1890. Later married James Morrison at St. Roch's Chapel, Glasgow.

Hugkulstone: All
All Surname Interests here: https://neilsfhsite.wordpress.com/surnames-and-areas/

All Whitby football related research:
https://wtfchistoryhome.wordpress.com/

Austrian Genealogy Group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/272740293132370


Offline Lensmeister

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 761
  • https://neilsfhsite.wordpress.com
    • View Profile
Re: Scotland from Ireland
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 15 July 17 07:49 BST (UK) »
I think in 1881 they were actually in Dennistoun ( 4 Bright Street) 644/3 86/5. Transcriptions on the various sites all vary - ancestry and Scotlandspeople give  Patrick as age 36 but Findmypast says 30. On Ancestry and FindMyPast Bridget is age 29 but on Scotlandspeople she is age 2!! Two children - Arthur John age 3 and Mary age 2 match with children shown in 1891. The Patrick in Barony is married to a Margaret.
Isobel

Hi Isobel,

I have a sheet of paper I typed up from February 2002 that I forgot I had and discovered it late last night.
it lists:
1881 census as being :
Patrick Mulholland   Head   Mar   36   General Labourer   Ireland.
Bridget      do         Wife    Mar   2     Wife of do             Ireland.
Arthur John  do       Son     Un    5                                 LKS, Glasgow.
Mary            do       Dau    Un     2                                 LKS, Glasgow.
taken at 6 Bright Street, Glasgow.
Ref 644/3   Enum 86    Page 5

I have a note to say that this was copied from the Family Record Centre in Myddleton Place in London which is where I spent a lot of time. There was a computer there you had to book in advance to see the original back then and if you wanted a copy if it you had to send off for it.
This was taken from the original image of the census.

Just need to locate them all on the 1901, 1911 and the Births in Ireland .....

Neil.
Hugkulstone: All
All Surname Interests here: https://neilsfhsite.wordpress.com/surnames-and-areas/

All Whitby football related research:
https://wtfchistoryhome.wordpress.com/

Austrian Genealogy Group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/272740293132370

Offline Lensmeister

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 761
  • https://neilsfhsite.wordpress.com
    • View Profile
Re: Scotland from Ireland
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 15 July 17 08:04 BST (UK) »
Patrick's youngest daughter Sarah Mulholland born in 1890 in 17 Rosemount Street, Glasgow, Dennistoun was living at

162 Millburn Street, Glasgow when she got married on 13th December 1910 at St. Roch's Chapel. (Additional note that Patrick Mulholland is listed as deceased). 

I've googled for Millburn Street and it says, Clydebank (if this is the same place as 1910).

According to Scotlands People there is this Sarah on the 1910 census:
MULHOLLAND
SARAH
1911
F
19
644/11 52/ 30
Anderston
Lanark

Hugkulstone: All
All Surname Interests here: https://neilsfhsite.wordpress.com/surnames-and-areas/

All Whitby football related research:
https://wtfchistoryhome.wordpress.com/

Austrian Genealogy Group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/272740293132370

Offline Skoosh

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,736
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Scotland from Ireland
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 15 July 17 09:15 BST (UK) »
This Dennistoun business is a bit of a red herring, the streets & chapel are all in the Garngad. Dennistoun is south of the Garngad Hill but used here as a larger registration district. A Garngad man trying to pass himself off as Dennistoun would be laughed oot the pub!  ;D

Skoosh.

Offline isobelw

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,566
  • Gran & Granpa Clotworthy
    • View Profile
Re: Scotland from Ireland
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 15 July 17 09:37 BST (UK) »
Bridget is at 57 Garngad Road in 1901 ( down as Bridgett Mullholland on both Ancestry and FindMyPast), she is 48 and a widow. A number of her children are with her, including Arthur and Sarah. I think she may be the 57 year old Bridget Mulholland listed  in 1911 census index on  Scotlandspeople living in Garngadhill. 1911 might possibly give place in Ireland that she was born.
Isobel
Clotworthy, McMahon, Saunderson, Culley (Ireland & Scotland)
Weatherall, Greer (Ireland & Scotland)
Hamilton, Johnston, Dawson, Rennie, Wright (Clackmannanshire)

Offline Lensmeister

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 761
  • https://neilsfhsite.wordpress.com
    • View Profile
Re: Scotland from Ireland
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 16 July 17 18:17 BST (UK) »
Bridget is at 57 Garngad Road in 1901 ( down as Bridgett Mullholland on both Ancestry and FindMyPast), she is 48 and a widow. A number of her children are with her, including Arthur and Sarah. I think she may be the 57 year old Bridget Mulholland listed  in 1911 census index on  Scotlandspeople living in Garngadhill. 1911 might possibly give place in Ireland that she was born.
Isobel

Thanks Isobel, when payday comes around I'll grab some ScotlandsPeople credits and get these.

Hugkulstone: All
All Surname Interests here: https://neilsfhsite.wordpress.com/surnames-and-areas/

All Whitby football related research:
https://wtfchistoryhome.wordpress.com/

Austrian Genealogy Group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/272740293132370