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Time of birth on Victorian birth certificates
« on: Sunday 16 July 17 18:12 BST (UK) »
For the first time ever, I have an ancestor's birth certificate, from Victorian times, which also has the time of birth stated: Fourteenth May 1872 8.a.m.

How usual/unusual is that kind of information? Certainly rare in my experience!



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Re: Time of birth on Victorian birth certificates
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 16 July 17 18:14 BST (UK) »
Usually given on Scottish Certificates 1855 onwards.
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Re: Time of birth on Victorian birth certificates
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 16 July 17 18:15 BST (UK) »
Time of birth normally appears when they are a twin  :)
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Re: Time of birth on Victorian birth certificates
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 16 July 17 18:17 BST (UK) »
Didn't know about Scottish certificates having that info!

The certificate is for a birth in England and not a twin!


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Re: Time of birth on Victorian birth certificates
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 16 July 17 19:40 BST (UK) »
I've only seen it on twin births. Could the other twin have died at birth ?
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
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Re: Time of birth on Victorian birth certificates
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 16 July 17 20:42 BST (UK) »

Although I have no evidence that the child was a twin,  I think the best thing for me is to ignore my comment that he was not a twin and do more research assuming that he was.

Thanks to all for your replies -  appreciated!

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Re: Time of birth on Victorian birth certificates
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 16 July 17 22:38 BST (UK) »
A few Registrars took it upon themselves to add the time of birth, so although it usually denotes a multiple birth, it was not always the case.

You can search the GRO website to see if there was a corresponding birth with the same mother's maiden name.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Time of birth on Victorian birth certificates
« Reply #7 on: Monday 17 July 17 04:21 BST (UK) »
Might be worth checking for a death certificate too, if there's no twin in the censuses. Perhaps there was a twin but it didn't live for very long, which is why you have been unaware of it.
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Re: Time of birth on Victorian birth certificates
« Reply #8 on: Monday 17 July 17 04:34 BST (UK) »
several of my birth certificates have time of birth on them - I wonder if it was an Aussie thing.   :)

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Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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