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Re: Occupation traveller
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 18 July 17 13:37 BST (UK) »
A HUGE thank you to you all. A whole new road has opened up to me thanks to your suggestions. My son in law's grandmother Annie Shaw had her first child George nin Withington workhouse. She later married Richard Johnson in 1852 presumably not George's father. On the marriage cert Richard's occupation is hawker. I hadn't paid much attention to Richard as he wasn't a blood relation. But your answers prompted me to look at the wider family networks and I've just found the 1891 census for Salford which shows Richard Johnson and his wife Annie (nee Shaw) and under address it says Travelling Show (it also says something about Liverpool, but my eyesight isn't too good and I can't read it.
They really were travellers/showmen! Can snyone suggest where I could find anything about the Travelling show that Richard was involved with?
Rootschatters have once again knocked down my brick wall. Son-in-law delighted!

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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 25 July 17 16:28 BST (UK) »
Funny how things happen! Thanks to help from rootschatters we discovered my son in laws ancestors were travelling showmen - something that had never been mentioned in his family. It all started by seeing the occupation 'traveller' which I'd misinterpreted, and asking on this forum if the surname Shaw could be a Romany/gypsy name.

But thinking about it, there's a whole branch (small one) of my own family where the men are described as travellers or hawkers, though there also seem to be connections with canals and docks etc in Hull. So . . . the marriage is between Esther Lowsley and Walter Varey. Do either of these surnames suggest a link with travellers? It would be a Great help if they do as I've spent at least 15 years trying to trace where they came from.

It would also be a welcome change from a long line of scullery maids and framework knitters etc!

Thank you.
Lesley

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Re: Occupation traveller
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 25 July 17 19:12 BST (UK) »
Esther Lowsley and Walter Varey. Do either of these surnames suggest a link with travellers?

Varey? I didn't even need to consult the 'BOB', to know That one rang bells!

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Re: Occupation traveller
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 25 July 17 19:35 BST (UK) »
Well, this is all new to me! But suddenly my family is starting to to sound interesting . . . Could I ask one more question. If the husband came from a traveller family, is it likely his wife's family are also gypsies or travellers? An awful lot of things are starting to make sense now.

I don't know what the BOB is but I'm very grateful for your help. Thank you Steve.
Lesley

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Re: Occupation traveller
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 25 July 17 19:50 BST (UK) »
I don't know what the BOB is but I'm very grateful for your help.

The Horror!!! Sorry, Lesley. I lose track. But, I thought I'd already explained 'The Bob', on this thread  :-[  Click my little house, below my avatar. All will be revealed.

I actually messaged Admin about this. I'd like to take it a step further, for the benefit of all.
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Re: Occupation traveller
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 25 July 17 20:01 BST (UK) »
I'm daft! You did say the thing about your house but I didn't know what you meant.  I hadn't been on this forum before, but getting the hang of it slowly. Thanks again. Lesley

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Re: Occupation traveller
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 26 July 17 17:44 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Could I ask one more question. If the husband came from a traveller family, is it likely his wife's family are also gypsies or travellers?
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Others more specialised may not agree, but I believe if still travelling probably Yes, if settled somewhat less likely.
While on the subject of you come across the surname Ayres (any spelling) amongst the show people please let me know. Thanks.
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