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Re: Frank Yeoman ELLERY NZ Family
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 25 October 17 22:15 BST (UK) »
many thanks for the update Lu
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Re: Frank Yeoman ELLERY NZ Family
« Reply #46 on: Thursday 16 November 17 02:28 GMT (UK) »
UPDATE A reply from Lu is still pending altho the time needed to do this means it could be a while before it is posted thanks

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Re: Frank Yeoman ELLERY NZ Family
« Reply #47 on: Monday 20 November 17 20:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bernice

Have sent you a message outlining the key points relating to the search for William Larkin ELLERY ... just to make it easier to follow all the information I will post here shortly.

   ~  Lu

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Re: Frank Yoeman ELLERY NZ Family
« Reply #48 on: Monday 20 November 17 21:42 GMT (UK) »
Thanks John
for the James Jane family but I had realized they didn't fit
I also dont know who William Larkin Ellery parents are?

Hi Bernice

Always thought it was a good idea to delve further into the family of Jane & James ELLERY, mainly because of the link to the "YEOMAN" name.   ;)

Although there are some ELLERY-related "trees" published online, most are repetitious;   none give any real helpful information.   And, William Larkin ELLERY does not feature in any of them.  ;D

But looking at the 1935 Obituary of Jane RAMSAY (formerly ELLERY, nee BAKER)  [see Muss's link at Reply 13 - page 2 ]  Edited to add link provided by Muss earlier >

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19350906.2.120

 ... the first-named of Jane's surviving children was a "Mrs F. RICHARDS (Auckland)". 
However, her daughter Gertrude, who'd married a "Frederick Samuel RICHARDS" (1908), had pre-deceased her mother.   
So who was "Mrs F. RICHARDS"  ??

Gertrude RICHARDS (nee ELLERY died 1913) and in 1914 her widower Frederick Samuel RICHARDS, married an "Ellen DAISLEY (or DAISLY)".
Ellen DAISLEY it transpired, was also fairly recently widowed, had in 1896 wed William DAISLEY as Ellen ELLERY  :o     

So who was this Ellen ELLERY.   ???  

The funeral notice (April 1913) for Gertrude RICHARDS tells that she is the 2nd daughter of Jane and the late James ELLERY of Te Aroha .... and at the foot of this notice
... the funeral for Gertrude will leave the residence of her sister (Mrs DAISLEY), Commercial Road, Arch Hill [Auckland].

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/AS19130410.2.79.2

   ~  Lu
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Re: Frank Yeoman ELLERY NZ Family
« Reply #49 on: Monday 20 November 17 21:52 GMT (UK) »
Burial record for Gertrude Richards
Date of death 9 April 1913
Age at death  26
Gender  Female
Region  West
Cemetery name  Waikumete Cemetery
Plot location  Anglican Division F Row 5, Plot 53
Interment type  Burial
Date of burial  11 April 1913
Funeral director  Tj Mcivor
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Comments: Iro Gertrude Richards Passed Away 10Th April 1913 Also Her Blvd Sister Ellen Richards Passed Away 5Th April 1952 Loved By All.

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Re: Frank Yeoman ELLERY NZ Family
« Reply #50 on: Monday 20 November 17 21:57 GMT (UK) »

Burial record for Ellen Richards
Date of death  5 April 1952
Age at death  77
Gender  Female
Region  West
Cemetery name  Waikumete Cemetery
Plot location  Anglican Division F Row 5, Plot 53
Interment type  Ashes Burial
Date of burial  10 April 1952
Funeral director  Watney Sibuns And Sons Limited
Additional information

Comments: Cremated 7/4/1952 / Dr Wagstaff Campbell Rd / Dr Drury Ponsonby Rtfd 8/4/52

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Re: Frank Yeoman ELLERY NZ Family
« Reply #51 on: Monday 20 November 17 22:01 GMT (UK) »
William Larkin ELLERY - continued :

So as well as the death notice for Gertrude RICHARDS indicating she and Ellen DAISLEY were sisters, and were the daughters of Jane and James ELLERY, In Memorium notices published in later years show that Gertrude was also the loving sister and sister-in-law of "W. and R. ELLERY" (who are presumably "William Larkin and Rachel ELLERY" ?? )

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH19150410.2.2.5

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Re: Frank Yeoman ELLERY NZ Family
« Reply #52 on: Monday 20 November 17 22:09 GMT (UK) »
Gertrude RICHARDS and Ellen RICHARDS are buried together at Waikumete Cemetery, Auckland :

Their headstone inscription reads :

"In remembrance of Gertrude RICHARDS passed away 10 April 1913.  ALSO her sister, Ellen RICHARDS passed away 5 April 1952.  Loved by all. "
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NZ Death Index


1952/ 29916 - RICHARDS - Ellen - 77 years
[born circa  1875  ]

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So this Ellen was born before the 1882 marriage of her Mother Jane to James ELLERY.

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Re: Frank Yeoman ELLERY NZ Family
« Reply #53 on: Monday 20 November 17 23:07 GMT (UK) »
William Larkin ELLERY

Hi Bernice ... now returning to William L.

NZ Birth Index has the following births which were all registered at Thames.

1874 / 33409 - GRINTER - Harry
Parents :  Jenney and Robert

1875 / 13422 - GRINTER - Ellen
Parents :   Jenny and Robert
[Date of Birth (deduced from online birth index) is = 15 October 1875 ]

1878 / 632 - GRINTER - William Larkin
Parents :  Fanny and Robert

Born on 24 December 1877 - registered in the next quarter = Jan-Mar 1878

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Although the mother's names in each of the above registrations are given differently, I believe that they probably all are for the same woman "Jenny" ("Fanny" is possibly a transcription error ?).

"Jenny" is also a diminutive of the forename "Jane".  ;)

I haven't (yet) found a marriage (in NZ or elsewhere) for the couple Jenny and Robert / or Jane and Robert.

I'm of the view that William Larkin GRINTER is the son of Jane, later ELLERY, later RAMSAY.
[Possibly only the 1878 birth printout for this child, will (correctly) confirm the maiden name of his mother ?
We are only supposing that the Jane who married James ELLERY  1882, had the maiden name of BAKER and that that wasn't a former married name ?  (despite what her Obit has to say.)]

And, I'm also fairly certain that the Ellen GRINTER birth registered 1875, is Ellen ELLERY - m. DAISLEY - m. RICHARDS -died 1952 - daughter of Jane ELLERY (RAMSAY).

[The child Harry GRINTER died as an infant (aged 3 Months) and was buried 30 September 1874 as Henry GRINTER at Shortland Cemetery, Thames.   Other burials in same plot seem to be unrelated family-wise ? ]

    ~  Lu

I have a good deal of information for Robert GRINTER which is to follow.    > >