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Justina Phillips nee Jones- Carmarthen and Llanelli
« on: Tuesday 18 July 17 09:51 BST (UK) »
Trying to find some more information about Justina Jones born about 1830/31 probably in Carmarthen, who married Thomas Phillips about 1850 and lived in Llanelli. One of her sons was David (my great grandfather) born 1861. I have the family on all censuses from 1851 on, but am trying to find more about Justina's family & history....

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Re: Justina Phillips nee Jones- Carmarthen and Llanelli
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 18 July 17 10:11 BST (UK) »
The marriage will be a good place to start. Both fathers should be named and witnesses often help.

Free BMD. Marriages Sep 1850
Jones  Justina     Llanelly  26 774   
Phillips  Thomas     Llanelly  26 774   
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Re: Justina Phillips nee Jones- Carmarthen and Llanelli
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 18 July 17 11:59 BST (UK) »
This could be her in 1841 census living Dame Street Carmarthen

John Jones 59 engraver
Anne 56
John 33
Jane 21
Elizabeth 19
Harriet 17
Justina 15
Hilina 12
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Justina Phillips nee Jones- Carmarthen and Llanelli
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 18 July 17 12:27 BST (UK) »
Justina Jones born 22 Dec 1826 was baptised 11 Feb 1827 in St Peter's Carmarthen, daughter of John, Serjeant in the Carmarthen Militia, and Ann of Dame Street.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: Justina Phillips nee Jones- Carmarthen and Llanelli
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 18 July 17 12:50 BST (UK) »
Thank you! That is her- she certainly had a sister Elizabeth (who ended up living with her and her family later in life), we thought her parents were John and Anne, and there is a family story about one of the family being in the army around the time of the Rebecca Riots, so that also ties in.

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Re: Justina Phillips nee Jones- Carmarthen and Llanelli
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 18 July 17 13:00 BST (UK) »
the Rebecca Riots were later than her baptism. He would have been quite old to still have been in the militia at the time of the riots, the upper age limit was 45 according to link from National Archives, and is noted as an engraver in 1841

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/militia/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/history/sites/themes/society/politics_rebecca_riots.shtml
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Justina Phillips nee Jones- Carmarthen and Llanelli
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 18 July 17 13:31 BST (UK) »
possible burials, all St Peter
John Jones aged 61 22 April 1844 Dame Street
Ann Jones aged 60 30 March 1847 Dame Street
Jane Jones aged 25 2 Dec 1845 Dame Street

Harriet Jones born 16 Feb 1825 bap 6 April 1825 dau of John, serjeant in the Carmarthen Militia, and Ann of Dame Street
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Justina Phillips nee Jones- Carmarthen and Llanelli
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 18 July 17 13:42 BST (UK) »
Top column second from left .
Funeral of Sgt Jones. 1844
It looks like he was highly thought of.

http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3051677/3051680/18/
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Re: Justina Phillips nee Jones- Carmarthen and Llanelli
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 18 July 17 14:29 BST (UK) »
SO excited to see the newspaper article- thank you so much for finding and posting it. It ties in further with the family story- a 'big' military funeral was mentioned. Lots of information this afternoon- thanks again!