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Death date for Mary Ann(e)Macdonald please?
« on: Tuesday 18 July 17 13:09 BST (UK) »
Hi

could anyone find a death date for Mary Ann Macdonald. I'm hoping the correct certificate would give a final, definite birth date

She was born in Approx 1871 according to her 1st marriage certificate.

She was married twice:

1st to John Sutcliffe in 1890 at St Mary Magdalene Southwark
2nd to John Macdonald at St John Horsleydown, Southwark.

The last record of her is in 1929  on the electoral registers, the Borough, Southwark. No longer living with John but close to her to her original Sutcliffe offspring.

Thanks

Jill
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Sutcliffe - Yorkshire & London
Harrington - Ireland and London
Fuller - Cambridgeshire and Essex
Waldron/Waldren - Devon & London
Frisby and Lee - Leicestershire
Hollingsworth - Essex
Williams - Ireland? and London
Ellis, Reed & Temple - London
Lane - ?
Surplice/Surplus - Cambridgeshire
Elwood - Cambridgeshire

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Re: Death date for Mary Ann(e)Macdonald please?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 18 July 17 13:28 BST (UK) »
There is a suitable candidate in Southwark area on the 1939 register with 1871 birth date.  If her, the death would be after September 1939

If it is her it would give a birth date  ;)

She may have died in hospital - if she was still in the London are it could be anywhere.  If she was visiting family or friends it could also be where they were living
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Re: Death date for Mary Ann(e)Macdonald please?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 18 July 17 21:00 BST (UK) »
Rosie

thank You. I have reason to think her birthday MAY have been in October though this is what I need to confirm from the death certificate.
Davis - Berkshire & London
Sutcliffe - Yorkshire & London
Harrington - Ireland and London
Fuller - Cambridgeshire and Essex
Waldron/Waldren - Devon & London
Frisby and Lee - Leicestershire
Hollingsworth - Essex
Williams - Ireland? and London
Ellis, Reed & Temple - London
Lane - ?
Surplice/Surplus - Cambridgeshire
Elwood - Cambridgeshire

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Re: Death date for Mary Ann(e)Macdonald please?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 18 July 17 23:03 BST (UK) »
Can only see 1 birth for a Mary Ann Lane father Edward registered March Q 1871.
1871 census gives age as 3 m so born Jan. 1871.
Father's occupation is labourer then bricklayer. Can't see an Edward Lane Lighterman.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Death date for Mary Ann(e)Macdonald please?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 19 July 17 00:58 BST (UK) »
"could anyone find a death date for Mary Ann Macdonald. I'm hoping the correct certificate would give a final, definite birth date"

I don't think any death cert. would give a date of birth.

When did she marry John Macdonald & how old did she state she was.

Does she name her father with occupation on both marriages?

Where do census' say she was born for to find her birth?

Have you looked at census records to see if her age fluctuates?

You don't give any details on her parentage i.e. I am wondering why you would be looking for a death rather than a birth?

Annie

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Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

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Re: Death date for Mary Ann(e)Macdonald please?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 19 July 17 11:23 BST (UK) »
Mary Ann's 2nd. marriage took place in 1918 she states she was 46.
On both marriages she says her father was Edward Lane lighterman.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Death date for Mary Ann(e)Macdonald please?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 19 July 17 11:30 BST (UK) »

The last record of her is in 1929  on the electoral registers, the Borough, Southwark. No longer living with John but close to her to her original Sutcliffe offspring.


What address was she at in 1929
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Re: Death date for Mary Ann(e)Macdonald please?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 19 July 17 11:49 BST (UK) »
12 Trinity Blds. Mermaid Court Southwark. Henry Sutcliffe & Mary Ann Sutcliffe at the same address. Henry was he son b. 1899.
1st. Husband appears to have died in 1913 aged 42.
Son James' marriage said he was a commercial traveller.
Should add the above address was from the 1920 ER. I can't positively identify her after that.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Death date for Mary Ann(e)Macdonald please?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 19 July 17 12:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jim  ;D

I could not see her for looking  ::)
10 Mermaid Court, Borough High st with John in 1926 - she is still there in 1929.
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