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SKIPWITH family (Kimpton, St Albans)
« on: Tuesday 18 July 17 20:08 BST (UK) »
Hello:

Researching a 13th-g-grandmother, Joan SKIPWITH (said to be 1474-1518) Kimpton, Herts. She married Robert BARLEY/BARLYE (said to be 1470-1534).

I've found reference to her being the daughter of William and Agnes (Constable) SKIPWITH but nothing is sourced. Too, they are of Lincolnshire.  Dates for William and Agnes vary widely but seem, in most cases, to be too early to be likely parents of Joan.

Any information about SKIPWORTH of Hertfordshire 1400s-1500s will be very much appreciated.

Thank you!
LUFF:  Illinois; Middx; Surrey; Berks
HEARNE:  Kent; Norfolk
HATHAWAY:  USA; Gloucestershire
OVENDEN:  Kent
WELLER:  Kent
SIMKINS:  Berks
WILLIAMS:  Bucks
CHARLEWOOD/CHARLWOOD:  Berks
HOPKINS: Gloucestershire
GILBERT: USA; Somersetshire
COCKS: Berks (?)

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Re: SKIPWITH family (Kimpton, St Albans)
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 19 July 17 17:34 BST (UK) »
"Lincolnshire Pedigrees Vol.3, p. 895 - Harleian Society Vol. 52 -available online" shows Sir William Skipwith, Knt. (d. 27 Nov. 1482) married to Agnes, dau. of Sir John Constable, Knt., of Burton Constable,
co. York ; widow of Thomas St. Quintin. 2nd wife with 3 children :
1. Sir John Skipwith, Knt., of South Ormsby; High Sheriff of co. Lincoln 1493 ; made a Knight-Banneret at Blackheath 1497.
2. Alice, mar. Sir John Markham, Knt.
3. Joan.

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Re: SKIPWITH family (Kimpton, St Albans)
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 19 July 17 19:46 BST (UK) »
Thanks, brad!

Yes, I've seen many trees that have William and Agnes as Joan's parents. I find it hard to believe and have yet to see any proof for that allegation.  That they are in Lincolnshire and Joan is to be of St Albans or Kimpton just doesn't jibe. But I'll look further!

There were SKIPWORTHs in Herts but I can find little about them; that was the point of my inquiry.

Cheers!
LUFF:  Illinois; Middx; Surrey; Berks
HEARNE:  Kent; Norfolk
HATHAWAY:  USA; Gloucestershire
OVENDEN:  Kent
WELLER:  Kent
SIMKINS:  Berks
WILLIAMS:  Bucks
CHARLEWOOD/CHARLWOOD:  Berks
HOPKINS: Gloucestershire
GILBERT: USA; Somersetshire
COCKS: Berks (?)

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Re: SKIPWITH family (Kimpton, St Albans)
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 20 July 17 01:14 BST (UK) »
According to this link Joan was the daughter of William Skipwith (d1509 St Albans) & Joan Baldock. 

The 1509 will is held at Hertfordshire Records Office.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kf5/
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.


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Re: SKIPWITH family (Kimpton, St Albans)
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 20 July 17 04:57 BST (UK) »
Thanks very much!

Just earlier today I located two sites that list William and Joan (Baldock) SKIPWITH as parents of Joan (and several others). Both sites have been very helpful and I've been working with the info (wills, etc.) there and forgot to mention the discovery here.  :o

MANY thanks Jomot and brad!
LUFF:  Illinois; Middx; Surrey; Berks
HEARNE:  Kent; Norfolk
HATHAWAY:  USA; Gloucestershire
OVENDEN:  Kent
WELLER:  Kent
SIMKINS:  Berks
WILLIAMS:  Bucks
CHARLEWOOD/CHARLWOOD:  Berks
HOPKINS: Gloucestershire
GILBERT: USA; Somersetshire
COCKS: Berks (?)

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Re: SKIPWITH family (Kimpton, St Albans)
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 20 July 17 05:47 BST (UK) »
There are some wills of Skipwith of St Albans:


1464 Peter Skypwyth, buried Codicote
1477/8 John Skypwyth, of St Albans
1509 William Skypwith, of St Albans
1522 George Skipwith, gent, of St Albans
1528 John Skypwyth, of St Albans

These are some details from the will of John Skypwyth, 1477, from "St Albans Wills 1471-1500" edited by Susan Flood:

To be buried in St Peter where my wife is buried
To my sons William and John Skypwyth whom I appoint executors
To my wife Katherine, for her life, my tenement in St Peters Street
After her death the tenement to my son John Skypwyth

Also, here is an entry for a lawsuit in Hilary term (Jan-Feb) 1510 in Common Pleas.

http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/H8/CP40no990/aCP40no990fronts/IMG_0392.htm
Third entry:
Herts. George Skipwith, executor of William Skipwith, esq, versus John Carver, of Sondon, Beds, yeoman; Thomas Lambard, of Walden, Essex, gent; Thomas Waldon, of St Albans, butcher, for debt.

George, as executor, would probably be William's son. These wills are at Hertford.
Mead - Herts, Bucks, Essex
Pontifex - Bucks
Goldhurst - London, Middx, Herts
Kellogg/Kelhog - Essex, Cambs

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Re: SKIPWITH family (Kimpton, St Albans)
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 20 July 17 16:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks SO much, Vance!

From the early research I've done on the two sites I mentioned, I have John and Ellen (Godfrey) SKIPWITH as parents of William. This jibes with your Wills info, Vance!  ;D

You've all been very helpful and I very much appreciate your interest and information!  Thanks so much!
LUFF:  Illinois; Middx; Surrey; Berks
HEARNE:  Kent; Norfolk
HATHAWAY:  USA; Gloucestershire
OVENDEN:  Kent
WELLER:  Kent
SIMKINS:  Berks
WILLIAMS:  Bucks
CHARLEWOOD/CHARLWOOD:  Berks
HOPKINS: Gloucestershire
GILBERT: USA; Somersetshire
COCKS: Berks (?)

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Re: SKIPWITH family (Kimpton, St Albans)
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 20 July 17 16:52 BST (UK) »
In case this Pedigree Chart can be of help to any other SKIPWITH (Hertfordshire) researchers:

http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/families/ski/skichart.shtml

LUFF:  Illinois; Middx; Surrey; Berks
HEARNE:  Kent; Norfolk
HATHAWAY:  USA; Gloucestershire
OVENDEN:  Kent
WELLER:  Kent
SIMKINS:  Berks
WILLIAMS:  Bucks
CHARLEWOOD/CHARLWOOD:  Berks
HOPKINS: Gloucestershire
GILBERT: USA; Somersetshire
COCKS: Berks (?)

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Re: SKIPWITH family (Kimpton, St Albans)
« Reply #8 on: Friday 21 July 17 05:31 BST (UK) »
Here's an earlier entry in Common Pleas for John Skypwyth.

http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no814/bCP40no814dorses/IMG_1038.htm
Hilary term 1465, second to last entry:
London. John Skypwyth, of St Albans, Herts, gentleman, versus Alexander Brewester, of London, sergeant; and Elizabeth his wife, alias Elizabeth Brewester, sole merchant, for a debt of 30 pounds.
Mead - Herts, Bucks, Essex
Pontifex - Bucks
Goldhurst - London, Middx, Herts
Kellogg/Kelhog - Essex, Cambs