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can you read this?
« on: Wednesday 19 July 17 19:43 BST (UK) »
My great-grandfather was a 'journey rider' in a Breconshire mine (see attached). Can anyone read what has been scribbled above this description in the 1901 Census entry, and if so is the scribble of any significance?

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Condick; Bull (Herefordshire only); Layard; Wilmot; Southgate; Fowlie (Singapore branch); Usher (Dundrum); Kelley (Lancashire);

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Re: can you read this?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 19 July 17 19:54 BST (UK) »
It looks like "base born" but I don't know why it would be written there.

Edit  No, on second look it clearly isn't.
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Re: can you read this?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 19 July 17 19:57 BST (UK) »
Thank you for looking at it!
Condick; Bull (Herefordshire only); Layard; Wilmot; Southgate; Fowlie (Singapore branch); Usher (Dundrum); Kelley (Lancashire);

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Re: can you read this?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 19 July 17 19:57 BST (UK) »
Think I see Below - i.e. worked below ground in mine.

Added - C Below - same meaning Coliery Below!

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Re: can you read this?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 19 July 17 20:01 BST (UK) »
Think I see Below - i.e. worked below ground in mine.

Added - C Below - same meaning Coliery Below!

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Sorry about that - I had sticky keys.  The C Below could mean Coal (mine) Below or C(olliery) Below.
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Re: can you read this?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 19 July 17 21:28 BST (UK) »
It is definitely 'Below'! (now you have pointed it out ... didn't see it at all before!)
But why would the census taker add in this comment and what does it mean? Any thoughts?
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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 19 July 17 21:46 BST (UK) »
It was for coding the occupation afterwards for statistical purposes. Those who worked below ground had a different occupational code than surface workers who did the same job.
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Re: can you read this?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 19 July 17 21:52 BST (UK) »
Can't find the simple listing at the moment but this will help:

https://www.tcd.ie/iiis/HNAG/Population/Census%20of%20Population,%201901.pdf

Added - here's the 1911 listing http://www.findmypast.co.uk/content/expert-1911-occupation-codes

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150 Coal and Shale Mine - Workers at the Face

160 Coal and Shale Mine - Other workers below ground

170 Coal and Shale Mine - Workers above ground
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Re: can you read this?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 20 July 17 06:54 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much, that is a crystal clear explanation which I am sure others will find useful as well. :)
Condick; Bull (Herefordshire only); Layard; Wilmot; Southgate; Fowlie (Singapore branch); Usher (Dundrum); Kelley (Lancashire);