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gwenllian howells
« on: Thursday 20 July 17 22:03 BST (UK) »
Hi

Need some help please

Gwenllian howell born about 1874 to a Ann Evans or Howells ??

Trying to find a marriage in Glamorgan of a Ann Evans ?? To a john howell ( s )

About 1872 to 1874

John apparently died about a 1876 ??

Need to find parents of

Ann and john

Ann re married to David jones and they had three children

Elizabeth 1877

Philip Roderick jones 1878

David jones 1879

They were adopted when their dad died before 1891 by a Thomas family ??

Any help

Regards Phil

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Re: gwenllian howells
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 20 July 17 22:16 BST (UK) »
A lot of ?? after some of your post which suggests you are unsure and haven't checked freebmd to confirm the info.  How do you know Ann was nee Evans?

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Trying to find a marriage in Glamorgan of a Ann Evans ?? To a john howell ( s )

Have you looked on freebmd?  You shouldn't assume they married in Glamorgan and should search all counties just in case

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Gwenllian howell born about 1874 to a Ann Evans or Howells ??

Where??  Do you have a copy of Gwenllian's birth cert confirming her fathers name and mothers maiden name?  No details given by you as to where Gwenllian was born

Does Ann's marriage cert to David Jones show her as a widow?  That cert will also show her fathers name and occupation

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Need to find parents of Ann and john

No info in your post as to birthyears or birthplaces and given the common nature of both surnames you would need to supply more details
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Re: gwenllian howells
« Reply #2 on: Friday 21 July 17 00:57 BST (UK) »
Hi

This information was left in an old letter

I believe the reg district is Pontypridd and the parish was llantrisant

But the elderly relative passed away a number of years ago and was unable to complete the research

Hope this helps

Regards Phil

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Re: gwenllian howells
« Reply #3 on: Friday 21 July 17 01:10 BST (UK) »
Have you looked for them under Jones on the 1881 census to establish birthplaces and birthyears for Ann & Gwenllian?

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I believe the reg district is Pontypridd and the parish was llantrisant

Have you checked freebmd and matched entries for mothers maiden name using
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

1872-1876 - no Gwenllian Howell or Howells with a mmn Evans

You say Ann married David Jones but have you looked on freebmd to establish when and where? 

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Philip Roderick jones 1878

Had you checked freebmd you would have found it was 1876
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Re: gwenllian howells
« Reply #4 on: Friday 21 July 17 02:18 BST (UK) »
Thanks

I will get someone to have a look

Regards phil

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Re: gwenllian howells
« Reply #5 on: Friday 21 July 17 04:15 BST (UK) »
John and Ann Marriage Sep 1873 Pontypridd    11a   515     also

John Howells m Ann Evans. (Minor), 01 Mar 1875. Llangynwyd, Glamorganshire.

Mary Ann Evans m David Jones. 18 Jan 1876. Swansea, St James, Glamorganshire.


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Re: gwenllian howells
« Reply #6 on: Friday 21 July 17 05:16 BST (UK) »
This maybe, no mothers maiden name so may have been single.

EVANS, GWENLLIAN. 1873  J Quarter in PONTYPRIDD  Volume 11A  Page 342.     

JONES, PHILIP  RODERICK. 1876  J Quarter in PONTYPRIDD  Volume 11A  Page 387. mm     EVANS.

JONES, DAVID. 1879  S Quarter in PONTYPRIDD  Volume 11A  Page 360 . mm  EVANS.

JONES, ELIZABETH. 1877  D Quarter in PONTYPRIDD  Volume 11A  Page 380 . mm  EVANS.       
 

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Re: gwenllian howells
« Reply #7 on: Friday 21 July 17 06:33 BST (UK) »
Looks like GWENLLIAN died a few months after birth. Pontypridd 11A 224.

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Re: gwenllian howells
« Reply #8 on: Friday 21 July 17 07:42 BST (UK) »
Looks like Philip Roderick Jones was a servant in the household of Dan Thomas in Pontypridd in1901.
RG 13/5017