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Miss Ivy Beale of "Pen Tavi" Tavistock Devon
« on: Friday 21 July 17 01:31 BST (UK) »
The Warkworth Museum (New Zealand) has recently come into possession of a large number of photographs and we are trying to identify them. Many are from England and some of the later ones are from here in New Zealand. 
Alas we have no identification on any of them apart from such things as "to aunty losts of love" and the like.
There is a cutting, from an unknown and undated  news paper which reads:

"Mrs Ivy Beale of Pentavi, Tavistock Devon, England who with her mother Mrs J V Beale is spending the summer with Dr and Mrs  Charles R Vickery. They will leave this week for Dwight Illinois  to spend a week and will then join Dr and Mrs Vickery in Denver and from there will tour Yellowstone Park. En-route home the will stop at "The Craggs" at Estes Park and will return with Mr and Mrs Vickery to this city about the middle of September for an indefinite stay"

EstesPark I understand is in Colorado

Some of these photos can be found at the museums Facebook page which you will find here https://www.facebook.com/warkworthanddistrictmuseum/

Any help in this search would be appreciatted

Alan
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Re: Miss Ivy Beale of "Pen Tavi" Tavistock Devon
« Reply #1 on: Friday 21 July 17 05:17 BST (UK) »
Without knowing a date, looking for Mrs Ivy Beale, I found a Marriage June 1930 between Ivy G Marshall and Harold Beale in Plymouth (5b 647).
Then I found a marriage in Dec 1953 between Ivy G Beale and Joseph H Netherton in Plympton (7a 1405).

Re-reading the newspaper clipping, there is a Mrs Ivy Beale and her mother Mrs JV Beale.  I would have thought that a married daughter would have a different surname to her mother. It is possible that there is a mistake and she should be Miss Ivy Beale, or the mother's surname is incorrectly written as Beale too ... or, less likely, Beale was Ivy's maiden name and she married a man with the same surname?  :-\

There is a birth for an Ivy Gwendoline Marshall in June 1907, which may fit with the above marriage/s.

This family appear to be in Plympton in 1911. Mother is Emily May and father is William (a grocery porter) - so no initials of "JV" to fit with the mother in the newspaper article. There are 9 children in this family so it doesn't look likely that they could have afforded a world trip on grocery porter's wages.

I think I must have been on the wrong track with that idea.  :)

There are a few births for Ivy Beales in Devon, but without any idea of dates, and without knowing if Ivy is Miss Beale rather than Mrs Beale, it will be difficult to work out which is "your" Ivy.

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Re: Miss Ivy Beale of "Pen Tavi" Tavistock Devon
« Reply #2 on: Friday 21 July 17 09:07 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that in this particular case there is not much I can add, the cutting included a picture but it reads "lady on right" and because the picture was immediately ABOVE the item I did not post it also the reproduction was not good.   There is no indication of a date but in the context of the the item would assume it to be at least a UK paper and most likely a Tavistock one.

Thanks anyway  for the information it may come in useful if we find any further information come to hand.

Any genealogist would give there right arm for these pictures.

Regards

Alan
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Stephenson: Cox: London
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Voss: Dorset

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Re: Miss Ivy Beale of "Pen Tavi" Tavistock Devon
« Reply #3 on: Friday 21 July 17 09:51 BST (UK) »
Maybe the reference to Mrs J V Beale indicates she was married to John V Beale

Deaths Jun 1920   
BEALE    John V   age 52   
Tavistock    5b   429

Births Dec 1867 
Beale    John Vickery       
Launceston    5c   23

Marriages Dec 1892 
Beale    John Vickery       
RATTENBURY    Bessie       
Launceston    5c   45

IVY  RATTENBURY BEALE    mmn RATTENBURY     
1893  Sept Quarter in LAUNCESTON  Volume 05C  Page 24
 
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Re: Miss Ivy Beale of "Pen Tavi" Tavistock Devon
« Reply #4 on: Friday 21 July 17 09:55 BST (UK) »
1901 census has them living in Lamerton, Tavistock and still in the area in the next census

John V Beale   33   occ   Farmer   born Devon
Bessie Beale   32   bn Cornwall
Ivy R Beale   7      bn    Cornwall
plus servants

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Re: Miss Ivy Beale of "Pen Tavi" Tavistock Devon
« Reply #5 on: Friday 21 July 17 09:58 BST (UK) »
Bessie & Ivy left Southampton 6 June 1924 bound for Quebec/Montreal on board the Antonia
Address Pen-Tavy, Tavistock
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Re: Miss Ivy Beale of "Pen Tavi" Tavistock Devon
« Reply #6 on: Friday 21 July 17 10:05 BST (UK) »
Marriages Sep qtr 1931 
Beale    Ivy R   
Hudson    Henry C   
Tavistock    5b   1001

Deaths Sep qtr 1965
HUDSON    IVY R  age  72   
Tavistock    7a   731
......
Deaths Jun qtr 1957 
BEALE    Bessie   age 89   
Tavistock    7a   676
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Re: Miss Ivy Beale of "Pen Tavi" Tavistock Devon
« Reply #7 on: Friday 21 July 17 10:11 BST (UK) »
From Western Times 26 July 1920 (from British Newspaper archive)

Will of Mr. J. V. Beale, C.C., of Tavistock

Mr. John Vickery Beale. C.C . of Pentavy. Tavistock, a member of the Devon County Council, and the Tavistock Urban Council, who died on March 24th, has left estate of the value of 19,493 2s 2d. The will of January 17th.1920 is proved by Bessie Beale, the widow. Ivy Rattenbury Beale. daughter. Rev. Digory Joseph Rounsfell, of Chesterfield-road. Bristol, and William John Martyn Wivell. of Tavistock. He leaves everything to his wife for life with remainder to his daughter.
Hooper- Torquay & Exbourne
Stevenson- Plymouth & Lincolnshire
Vivian- Cornwood & London

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Re: Miss Ivy Beale of "Pen Tavi" Tavistock Devon
« Reply #8 on: Friday 21 July 17 10:13 BST (UK) »
Probate index for Bessie gives same address in Tavistock and mentions daughter Ivy Rattenbury Hudson & Henry Cecil Hudson
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=beale&yearOfDeath=1957&page=2#calendar
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