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Private john armour 2nd Argyll and Sutherlands
« on: Friday 21 July 17 04:27 BST (UK) »
 Am trying to find some details of where this soldier was buried. He died  on 26 August 1915(? )  somewhere in France. I dont have his service number only a newspaper cutting about his death(unfortunately the cutting has no date ). He served with the 2nd Argyll and Sutherland regiment and was born in Greenock. Have tried contacting the regimental archives but so far no result.  I would appreciate some help on where to look.

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Re: Private john armour 2nd Argyll and Sutherlands
« Reply #1 on: Friday 21 July 17 05:28 BST (UK) »
From UKSDGW on Ancestry. 10115 was born in Whiteinch, Lanarks and was residing in Greenock on enlistment at Irvine, Ayrs.

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/280107/ARMOUR,%20J

Landed 10.8.1914 so either a Regular Soldier or possibly a Territorial. The address on his MIC is 1 William Street, Greenock.

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Re: Private john armour 2nd Argyll and Sutherlands
« Reply #2 on: Friday 21 July 17 05:47 BST (UK) »
 Thank you so much Peter hastie  That is exactly what we wanted to know.

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Re: Private john armour 2nd Argyll and Sutherlands
« Reply #3 on: Monday 24 July 17 12:16 BST (UK) »
Landed 10.8.1914 so either a Regular Soldier or possibly a Territorial.

He would not have been a Territorial, but he may have been a Reserve - men signed up for 12 years service, but only the first 7 (mainly) were served in uniform after which they went back to civilian life but remained on call for duty as members of the Reserve until the full 12 years were up.

2nd Battalion, Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders was a Regular battalion stationed at Fort George (near Inverness). When was was declared it was brought up to full strength using recalled Reserves and shipped to France where it was attached to the 19th Brigade - a slightly odd unit independent of Division or Corps until October, when 6th Division / 3 Corps arrived and took it in.

On 26 August 1915 the battalion was in the line manning Orchard Trench, which seems to have been at the edge of Givenchy village.  The battalion's war diary (£3.50 as a TNA download, or at Ancestry) state that casualties that day were 2 killed and 7 wounded - its first casualties for a couple of weeks, so he was probably one of the 2 killed.

He was buried in the King's Liverpool Graveyard at Cuinchy - his remains were moved to their current location in 1924 (documentation available from his CWGC entry).


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Re: Private john armour 2nd Argyll and Sutherlands
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 30 July 17 00:56 BST (UK) »
Hi orkrad

Came across this after seeing the post so I thought I'd put it up for you,

First Name: John
Surname: Armour
Birth Town: Whiteinch, Lanarkshire
Resided Town: Greenock, Renfrewshire
Nationality: British
Date of Death: 26/08/1915
Fate: Killed In Action
Rank: Private
Service Number: 10115
Duty Location:   France and Flanders

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Re: Private john armour 2nd Argyll and Sutherlands
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 30 July 17 22:45 BST (UK) »
 Thanks Salmon Blue. We now have lots of information on John Armour and his grandson hopes to visit the cemetery where he is interred in the near future.  Regards Orkrad