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Looking for Joseph Petrus Veenendaal's parents
« on: Sunday 23 July 17 08:39 BST (UK) »
Hi I was wondering if someone would be able to help me. I am trying to find out who my grandfathers parents are. His name is Joseph Petrus Veenendaal and he was born on 23 May 1875 at The Hague, Netherlands.  Many thanks to anyone who can help me. Kerrie

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Re: Looking for Joseph Petrus Veenendaal's parents
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 23 July 17 09:20 BST (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat! ;D

The usual website for Dutch research is www.wiewaswie.nl/en, but I can't see any records on there?

Did he marry in the UK, If so, when and where?
The marriage certificate would show his father's name.
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Re: Looking for Joseph Petrus Veenendaal's parents
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 23 July 17 09:26 BST (UK) »
No he went to South Africa and then on to Australia.  We think he was married Eleanor Mabel Millicent Kennedy (Millie) in Burnie but we can't find any record of it.  We do have his naturalisation papers which give his date and place of birth but nothing else.

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Re: Looking for Joseph Petrus Veenendaal's parents
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 23 July 17 10:07 BST (UK) »
This gentleman I presume is the same who died 1954 in NSW?
You'll need to look for the location "s-Gravenhage" in some records.

wiewaswie does not have everything indexed. Try the
Zuid-Holland civil registrations on familysearch:
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1576401

Again, not everything indexed, so you must go to browse through the images and look for "s-Gravenhage"

Sure enough, a Joseph Petrus Veenendaal is listed in the index at the start of the 1875 births (Geboorten 1875 ) - 25 May.

That birth is here (http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kfl/  ) bottom left, image 303.
My dutch is not very good but with the help of google translate I believe the parents are Karel Veenendaal and Johanna Boekvrift/Boekwift(??), and Karel's occupation may be "rijksveldwachter", a sort of constable (see here: https://www.dutchgenealogy.nl/veldwachter/ )

To look for other relatives look for Tienjarige tafels - ten year indexes.  For example in Tienjarige tafels 1853-1872 huw. (tables 1853-1872, marriages) the marriage of Karel Veenendaal and Johanna Boekwyt is listed as 16 Feb 1870.

Note for marriages there are two sets of info.
Huwelijken 1870 - marriages for 1870.
the marriage of Karel and Johanna is here (http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kfm/  ) right hand side, image no 76.
Karel born Amersfoort, aged 34, parents Karel Veenendaal and Kaatje Wiggenraad
Johanna born Leyden, aged 31, parents Abraham Boekwyt and Henriette Christina van den Bosch

Then there are the Huwelijksbijlagen, this is all the background documentation you required to get married. Karel and Johanna's file starts here, image 1404 of "Huwelijksbijlagen 1869-1870 v/a 551 t/m 233"  (their marriage number was 87 in 1870): http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kfn/

This one is fairly minimal but does include:
-extract of Karel's birth record
-information on Karel's military service
-extract of Johanna's birth record
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Re: Looking for Joseph Petrus Veenendaal's parents
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 23 July 17 10:18 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jorose.  Yes Joseph died in Sydney in 1854.  Thank you for all your help I will now follow up on all this.