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Scottish SMITH family travellers - THOMAS and ROSE around 1900
« on: Sunday 23 July 17 17:17 BST (UK) »
Hi. I am looking for any information relating to my ancestor, William Brown's 2nd wife (irregular marriage) to Elizabeth Rose Smith - marriage date 06.10.1939. Her DOB is 03.09.1892 born in Denny, Stirling.

I'd like to know more about Elizabeth's family of 'travellers'; her father, Thomas Smith (deceased by 1939) and mother Rose Wightman/Weightman who married 02.10.1890 in Hamilton.

I know they knew the Codona family but nothing else except William Brown and Elizabeth's marriage cert shows them as 'Amusement Caterers' - not sure of the Caterers word but it looks like that. 

Also trying to trace William Brown's first marriage without success though his marriage to 'Lizzy' shows him as divorced. I  believe he had a child to hat first wife who was named Jean Brown but know nothing more of her or her mother.

Any help or signposting greatly appreciated.

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Re: Scottish SMITH family travellers - THOMAS and ROSE around 1900
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 25 July 17 17:53 BST (UK) »
Her father was Showman Thomas Smith b 1867 Edinburgh
Her mother:
Name:   Rose Ann Wightman
Gender:   Female
Birth Date:   19 Jul 1870
Birth Place:   High Church,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland
Father:   Isaac Wightman
Mother:   Sarah Tracy
Father was a shoe maker by trade

She had 5 brothers Thomas Smith b 1896 Dunfermline, Fifeshire - Charles Smith b 1899 Govan glasgow, Lanarkshire Hugh Smith b 1901 Scotland Joseph Smith b 1906 Scotland Wm Savona Smith  1910 • Cowdenbeath, Fife, Scotland

1901 Census Inverkeithing fife  Address:Gres Cres Green Show Cava-

The  Codona family
The Codona family came from Italy to Scotland in the early 19th century. They were a circus family and toured the country as entertainers. One branch of the family left Glasgow in the early 1900’s and went to America ,then moved to Mexico and formed a trapeze act which eventually became the world famous “Flying Codonas”. With the advent of the Cinematograph the family in Scotland opened a “Travelling Picture Show” and eventually opened cinema halls in the East of Scotland. It was during this time the “Steam Driven” fairground rides started to appear and the family owned and toured with various popular rides.* courtesy of Scotlands Fairgrounds*
TENETT BUCKLAND & PLATO BUCKLAND ( MY LINEAGE)
  Buckland Smith James Stanley Lovell Loveridge Lee Cooper Penfold/Pinfold Orchard Boswell Broadway Wells
 
AREAS OF INTEREST CORNWALL DEVON

USA   Worton Stanley Joles Cooper  Jeffrey Small
 all English lines of Roms who are found in America

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Re: Scottish SMITH family travellers - THOMAS and ROSE around 1900
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 26 July 17 09:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the info. Could i ask where you found the census info please?

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Re: Scottish SMITH family travellers - THOMAS and ROSE around 1900
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 26 July 17 17:33 BST (UK) »
A well known pay for site not sure if allowed to say. but lets put it this way information is available if you look in right place looking for your ancestry. :)


TENETT BUCKLAND & PLATO BUCKLAND ( MY LINEAGE)
  Buckland Smith James Stanley Lovell Loveridge Lee Cooper Penfold/Pinfold Orchard Boswell Broadway Wells
 
AREAS OF INTEREST CORNWALL DEVON

USA   Worton Stanley Joles Cooper  Jeffrey Small
 all English lines of Roms who are found in America

UK Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


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Re: Scottish SMITH family travellers - THOMAS and ROSE around 1900
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 29 July 17 16:26 BST (UK) »
I just wanted to find out what the address means, looks a bit odd:
1901 Census Inverkeithing fife  Address: Gres Cres Green Show Cava-

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Re: Scottish SMITH family travellers - THOMAS and ROSE around 1900
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 16 March 19 17:11 GMT (UK) »


I know they knew the Codona family but nothing else except William Brown and Elizabeth's marriage cert shows them as 'Amusement Caterers' - not sure of the Caterers word but it looks like that. 



Apparently the term Amusement Caterers was generally accepted to mean Fun Fair Operators.
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