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Offline MacGrigor

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Re: William F and Ellen Cartwright (née Dobson)
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 25 July 17 20:37 BST (UK) »
I'll have to have a look into it. Parish records are always the place to look.
Dead-end ancestors:

Morris Lipman, b. ca. 1828, m. 1844, City of London, d. 1865, City of London
Simon McGrigor/McGregor/MacGregor, b. ca. 1789, m. 1811, Fodderty, d. 1859, Fodderty (parents Alexander MacGregor and Mary Grant)
William Sands, b. ca. 1816, m. 1837, Clerkenwell, d. 1863, St. Luke's
Jesse Thorogood, b. ca. 1751, m. 1777, Shalford, d. 1826, Shalford
Caroline Winch, b. ca. 1829, m. 1855, Uxbridge, d. 1904, Chelmsford
William Cartwright, d. 1910, Wigston

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Re: William F and Ellen Cartwright (née Dobson)
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 26 July 17 14:06 BST (UK) »
From the Notts FHS CD

1865 04 23   
Son   William   father Samuel CARTWRIGHT   mother Jessy      
Father's occ Labourer   
abode Norwell   
parish name NORWELL St Lawrence   


and the parental marriage:

1864 10 27   Samuel   CARTWRIGHT   and Jessie   PEARCE   @ NORWELL St Lawrence
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Leic)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: William F and Ellen Cartwright (née Dobson)
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 26 July 17 14:09 BST (UK) »
two more baptisms for this couple:

1868 01 20   John         Samuel   CARTWRIGHT   Jesse      Labourer   
Hoveringham   HOVERINGHAM St Michael   
1872 03 17   Dau         Rosa               Samuel   CARTWRIGHT   Jessie      Labourer   Norwell Woodhouse   NORWELL St Lawrence   

I don't see a baptism for June. Let me see if I can find Mary:

added -- nope,, can't find Mary's baptism under either possible parental name!
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Leic)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: William F and Ellen Cartwright (née Dobson)
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 26 July 17 14:20 BST (UK) »
As for the history, I can get back to John Cartwright, born 1796 in Caunton. His parents were John and Mary, although I can find nothing on them. He married Mary Hallam of Norwell in 1812, in Norwell. She was born in 1793.

According to my CD, the only John Cartwright bapt in Caunton had different parents:

baptism:
birthdate 1790 10 09        baptism date 1790 10 10   
John   
father Wm   CARTWRIGHT   
mother Elizth            
parish CAUNTON St Andrews   


There was a John Cartwright, son of John and Mary, baptised at Newark St Mary Magdalene in 1996. Maybe this one is yours? ie not at Caunton?
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Leic)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: William F and Ellen Cartwright (née Dobson)
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 26 July 17 14:36 BST (UK) »
And I am feeling horribly like the bearer of bad tidings for all your research, but the only Mary Hallam at Norwell in the right time frame was baptised in 1792, not 1793:

1792 03 00   Dau   Mary   
father John  HALLAM     mother Elizabeth         
abode Norwell   
parish NORWELL St Lawrence   
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Leic)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: William and Ellen Cartwright (née Dobson)
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 26 July 17 14:59 BST (UK) »
Well thank you for all this information Annie65115. Mary Hallam is probably the same one born in 1792. A year here or there isn't usually much difference. As for the John Cartwright of Caunton, I think I'll have to look again at the census records, to make sure of his age.
Dead-end ancestors:

Morris Lipman, b. ca. 1828, m. 1844, City of London, d. 1865, City of London
Simon McGrigor/McGregor/MacGregor, b. ca. 1789, m. 1811, Fodderty, d. 1859, Fodderty (parents Alexander MacGregor and Mary Grant)
William Sands, b. ca. 1816, m. 1837, Clerkenwell, d. 1863, St. Luke's
Jesse Thorogood, b. ca. 1751, m. 1777, Shalford, d. 1826, Shalford
Caroline Winch, b. ca. 1829, m. 1855, Uxbridge, d. 1904, Chelmsford
William Cartwright, d. 1910, Wigston