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Re: Joseph Giles and wife Rita Ellen
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 26 July 17 11:28 BST (UK) »
Hi 

 https://graves.brisbane.qld.gov.au/

 The EMMA GILES that died in 1958 may not be the person you are searching for

EMMA GILES 77 years  17. 10. 1958  Lutwyche Cemetery

Emma Rita Giles is buried with: SCOTT CLARENCE RODERICK No Date No Date 62 Years 17-6-1976

Location MON-13-4E-2

Walter Percival and son Wallace buried together: Location MON-GP5-33A-78

SCOTT WALLACE WILLIAM 21 Years 6-6-1931

SCOTT WALTER PERCIVAL No Date No Date 49 Years 26-03-1934


Death of Hilda May: 1971 B20858 Hilda May Scott parents Thomas Ray and Mabel Ferguson

Hilda's plaque: http://www.heavenaddress.com/restingplace/mtthompsonmemorialgardens/hilda-may-scott/383941

What were Joseph's parents' names? Father Leighton and mother ...
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Re: Joseph Giles and wife Rita Ellen
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 26 July 17 12:39 BST (UK) »
Thanks - Bingo - I have Clarence Roderick living in Kelvin Grove, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia which is the same street as Rita Emma and Joseph.

But Now I am confused! You have Percival Walter Scott marrying Emma Rita Lewis in 1908 but there is also Clarence Roderick Scott and Emma Rita.....do you think she married 2 brothers?
Thanks for all your help!

Hi
If you read the information with care, you will see that Clarence was the son of Walter  and Emma.
the records given above show this clearly.
 
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Re: Joseph Giles and wife Rita Ellen
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 26 July 17 14:05 BST (UK) »
Joseph's parents were Leighton Giles and Beatrice Ethel Partridge.
Thanks for help so far. I had not had time to read the docs as I was dashing out for a meeting so I apologise for the question.
I wonder why daughter Rita Emma is not mentioned in the funeral notices?

The Emma Rita Giles who is buried with Clarence Roderick Scott is too old to be 'my' Rita Emma, therefore i wonder whether Emma R remarried after her husbands death in 1934 and it is pure coincidence that she married someone with the same surname as her daughter's husband??

Pic is of Joseph and Rita Emma Giles. Looks in the 1940s?
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Re: Joseph Giles and wife Rita Ellen
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 27 July 17 00:41 BST (UK) »
Hi
 On NSW BDM
  Joseph Giles  no 57/1982  father Leighton Mother Beatrice



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Re: Joseph Giles and wife Rita Ellen
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 27 July 17 00:50 BST (UK) »
Hi

  http://www.easternsuburbsmemorialpark.com.au/finding-loved-ones

 Joseph Giles 18/12/1981 age 72

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Re: Joseph Giles and wife Rita Ellen
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 27 July 17 01:33 BST (UK) »
Hi

  http://www.easternsuburbsmemorialpark.com.au/finding-loved-ones

 Joseph Giles 18/12/1981 age 72

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He is buried alone:

Joseph Giles
18/12/1981
Burial
RC29 - Roman Catholic FM 29, Position 1346

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Re: Joseph Giles and wife Rita Ellen
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 27 July 17 01:58 BST (UK) »
The way forward would be to get the marriage cert of Joseph and Emma. That should give her age and parents names.

Keep in mind that the age of death, as recorded on the website, for Emma, may have been mistranscribed.

A check to see if they are on an electoral role together in NSW may be helpful.

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Re: Joseph Giles and wife Rita Ellen
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 27 July 17 07:31 BST (UK) »
Joseph's parents were Leighton Giles and Beatrice Ethel Partridge.
Thanks for help so far. I had not had time to read the docs as I was dashing out for a meeting so I apologise for the question.
I wonder why daughter Rita Emma is not mentioned in the funeral notices?

The Emma Rita Giles who is buried with Clarence Roderick Scott is too old to be 'my' Rita Emma, therefore i wonder whether Emma R remarried after her husbands death in 1934 and it is pure coincidence that she married someone with the same surname as her daughter's husband??

 

There is no record that I have located of a daughter to Emma Rita SCOTT.
I find no reference to such person recorded either.

Could you tell us where you found the record?

Emma Rita SCOTT is on the QLD electoral roll with her son in 1937. (see above)
Then she is not.

A person named Rita Emma GILES appears on the ER with Joseph GILES in 1943. (see above)

There is a marriage in 1939
QLD  marriages  Emma SCOTT to Joseph GILES 1939/ B 34444

The woman who died had the same parents as the one who was born in Victoria.
Death
Emma Rita GILES  1958 B28434
Parents Thomas LEWIS &  Anne McCOREY

Birth
LEWIS, Emma
Parents Thomas & Ann Jane McCROREY
At Star
1881
Reg. 19736

Emma called herself Rita. She and son were hurt in 1938 in a car accident and taken to hospital

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/38698908

The 1943 ER mentioned where Joseph and Rita Ellen are together lists Joseph as a wardsman.
A wardsman works in a hospital (or similar institution).

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Re: Joseph Giles and wife Rita Ellen
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 27 July 17 08:35 BST (UK) »
On the 1954 and 1958 electoral rolls Joseph's occupation was motor trimmer.  I cannot find any further enrolments but wondered if the following was him

Australian Electoral Roll
1980
GILES Joseph  L S O P Market Street, Randwick    No occupation

Little Sisters of the Poor Nursing Home is at 70 Market Street, Randwick.

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On NSW BDM
  Joseph Giles  no 57/1982  father Leighton Mother Beatrice

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Joseph Giles
18/12/1981
Burial
RC29 - Roman Catholic FM 29, Position 1346

A transcription of his death cert may be helpful also
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/bdm_fh.html#transcription

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