Author Topic: James ALLAN (1855-1926) & Jane ALLAN (1855-1919) - Otago  (Read 1127 times)

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James ALLAN (1855-1926) & Jane ALLAN (1855-1919) - Otago
« on: Tuesday 25 July 17 22:45 BST (UK) »
Hello,

I am wondering if someone might be able to provide me with the obituaries for James Allan (1855-1926) and Jane (Jeannie) Allan (nee McRae) (1855-1919). They were married in 1877 in Dunedin. Both are buried in Andersons Bay Cemetery, along with a son and daughter.

I believe that there were seven children: Margaret Jane (1878), Flora McDonald (1884), William (1886), Mabel (1888), Leonard Stanley (1890), Reginald (1893) and Walter (1896). There might have been others as there is a gap between 1878 and 1884.

Any further information about this couple, and their children would be much appreciated. Thank you.

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Re: James ALLAN (1855-1926) & Jane ALLAN (1855-1919) - Otago
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 25 July 17 23:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Printer,

PapersPast is the best place to look for obituaries

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers

Is there any particular information you are looking for?

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Re: James ALLAN (1855-1926) & Jane ALLAN (1855-1919) - Otago
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 25 July 17 23:35 BST (UK) »

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Re: James ALLAN (1855-1926) & Jane ALLAN (1855-1919) - Otago
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 25 July 17 23:47 BST (UK) »
Here is the probate for James


James Allan
New Zealand, Archives New Zealand, Probate Records
Name    James Allan
Event Type    Probate
Event Date    1926
Event Place    Dunedin, Otago, New Zealand
Residence Place    Dunedin
Agency    DAAC
Accession    D239
Series Number    9075
Series Name    Dunedin Probate and Letters of Administration Files (I), 1907-1950
Item Code    R22069101
Box Number    420
Record Number    10112
First Image Number    448
Last Image Number    457
Number of Images    10

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9GD-V8CZ?i=447&cc=1865481

You can scroll through the pages using the arrows in the top left where it says images

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Re: James ALLAN (1855-1926) & Jane ALLAN (1855-1919) - Otago
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 26 July 17 00:08 BST (UK) »
Hello Janette,

Thank you. I had looked in PapersPast, but never came across the death notice for James Allan! Nor  the Probate either!

I am trying to confirm the number of children the couple had. Allan is quite a common surname in Otago. According to the 1925 marriage (PapersPast) of Reginald Allan, he was the fourth son. Mr Allan, sen., was mentioned among the guests. Which makes me think there must have been a son, James Allan. Regards.

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Re: James ALLAN (1855-1926) & Jane ALLAN (1855-1919) - Otago
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 26 July 17 00:18 BST (UK) »
It looks like there were more than one Jane and James Allan having children during the same period

1877/14369   Allan    Robert Andrew    Jane   James   
1878/10296   Allan    Charles    Jane   James   
1878/11403   Allan    Mary Jane    Jane   James   
1878/14491   Allan    Margaret Jane    Jane   James   
1879/9538          Allan    Robert    Jane   James   
1879/10568   Allan    Mary Jane    Jane   James   
1880/8462           Allan    Jessie    Jane   James   
1881/6272          Allan    George    Jane   James   
1882/883          Allan    James Murray    Jane   James   
1882/13000   Allan    James    Jane   James   
1884/16095   Allan    Flora McDonald    Jane   James   
1884/18338   Allan    James    Jane   James   
1886/13263   Allan    William    Jane   James   
1888/5966    Allan    Mabel    Jane   James   
1890/18334   Allan    Leonard Stanley    Jane   James   

1893/4695    Allan    Reginald    Jane   James   
1896/10688   Allan    Walter    Jane   James


Some of the others may be your lot

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Re: James ALLAN (1855-1926) & Jane ALLAN (1855-1919) - Otago
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 26 July 17 00:29 BST (UK) »
Here is Jeanie's death notice

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ODT19190807.2.16?query=allan%20james

I think the FD's are still in business and it may pay to ask if they still have her records

https://www.fdanz.co.nz/fdanz-funeral-directors

scroll down to Otago and it is Hope and Sons Ltd

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Re: James ALLAN (1855-1926) & Jane ALLAN (1855-1919) - Otago
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 26 July 17 00:33 BST (UK) »
If you have no joy there you may need to purchase a "printout" of either Jane or James' death registration

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search?Path=querySubmit.m%3fReportName%3dDeathSearch%26recordsPP%3d30#SearchResults

If you have a credit card you can follow the instructions and order online and have it emailed to you at a cost of $25

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Re: James ALLAN (1855-1926) & Jane ALLAN (1855-1919) - Otago
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 26 July 17 00:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Janette,

Thank you again, I had just found the death notice for Jeanie Allan!

As you found on BDM, there was more than one James and Jane Allan having children around the same time.

I will try the FD's, and if no joy there, then obtain a Death Certificate.

Leonard Stanley Allan died 8 Feb 1950 at Waimate, and his sister Margaret Jane Duff died on 10 August 1965 in Dunedin. Would their obituaries maybe mention other siblings? Regards.

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Mummery - Kent
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