Douglas Robson born 1835

[rosball]

This news item in December 1858 has a Douglas ROBSON arriving as a passenger in Adelaide from Melbourne on the Admella http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article786963

Not that it matters as there are more recent sightings ...  just interesting if he was a crew member on this ship to Sydney and then became a passenger. 


Ros

[ADR68]

This news item in December 1858 has a Douglas ROBSON arriving as a passenger in Adelaide from Melbourne on the Admella http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article786963

Not that it matters as there are more recent sightings ...  just interesting if he was a crew member on this ship to Sydney and then became a passenger. 


Ros

Hi Ros, yes it's an odd one, to me I find it hard to believe there is further trace of him, if he married it would shown up somewhere and when he died again same thing, he must have to sea very young as he does not show on the 1851 Census.

[rosball]

I can't see a marriage or death for him in South Australia https://www.genealogysa.org.au/

But if he did come to Adelaide as a passenger it implies he did intend to stay perhaps  ...?

[ADR68]

I can't see a marriage or death for him in South Australia https://www.genealogysa.org.au/

But if he did come to Adelaide as a passenger it implies he did intend to stay perhaps  ...?

Members of my family have trying to solve for it years, he may have not settled in Australia, ?
It's beginning to look like he either jumped ship and changed his name so not to be caught or he settled somewhere else.

[majm]

This news item in December 1858 has a Douglas ROBSON arriving as a passenger in Adelaide from Melbourne on the Admella http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article786963

Not that it matters as there are more recent sightings ...  just interesting if he was a crew member on this ship to Sydney and then became a passenger. 


Ros

I am not sure he was in Sydney. 

I am not sure that that voyage of the Admella originated from any NSW port.

I am sure that the voyage of the Admella arriving Adelaide 24 December 1858 commenced Melbourne 22 Dec and Portland Dec 23.  Yes, I agree that Douglas Robson is listed on that voyage among those who travelled steerage. 
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/786963  Sth Aust Adv 27 Dec 1858.

The South Australian Weekly of 18 December 1858 had noted the departure of the screw-steamer Admella, 478 tons, McEwen, master, for Melbourne on Wed Dec 15. 
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/88820211 

I think it is sensible to consider the Admella would not manage to depart Adelaide 15 Dec, get to Melbourne, then up to Sydney then back to Melbourne to be involved in an accident at Sandridge Wharf on Sunday 19 December and then be back in Adelaide by 24 December after calling into to Portland (on each leg of that voyage  .


The late gale in Hobson’s Bay – On Sunday afternoon …. These vessels lay on the weather side of the pier …..The Earl Grey, lying at the Sandridge jetty, carried away the jibboom of the steamer Admella, and in addition to lifting up several of the planks on the wharf, chafed away her own quarterdeck.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/87985748 Bendigo Advertiser 22 Dec 1858

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/154874362 Age 21 Dec 1858 
(two Adverts 1st column)

I have not found any evidence of Douglas ROBSON settling in any location in NSW circa 1858 - 1863.  I have not looked more recently than 1863.

JM

[rosball]

He is listed as AB, meaning Able Bodied Seaman on all three. He is listed in the crew section of the manifest.

D. ROBSON.25 October, 1858. Ship Admella. Aged 23. British. From Southampton to Sydney.

Douglas ROBSON. 12 Sep 1860. Ship Cairngorm .Aged 24. From London to Sydney.

Duglass ROBSON. November 1860. Ship Mauna Maua. Aged 25. From Nelson (NZ) to Sydney.

Sue

I don't understand your point JM - are you disputing Sue's find?  From mariners and ships
http://marinersandships.com.au/search.htm it shows the Admella arriving from Rockhampton in Sydney in October 1858 with D ROBSON as crew British, 23.
http://marinersandships.com.au/1858/10/064adm.htm

Anyway what is relevant to the search for the man are the most recent sightings of the man and the fact that the family didn't know his whereabouts in 1899.

Ros

[majm]

I don't understand your point JM - are you disputing Sue's find?  From mariners and ships
http://marinersandships.com.au/search.htm it shows the Admella arriving from Rockhampton in Sydney in October 1858 with D ROBSON as crew British, 23.
http://marinersandships.com.au/1858/10/064adm.htm

Anyway what is relevant to the search for the man are the most recent sightings of the man and the fact that the family didn't know his whereabouts in 1899.

Ros

I am not disputing Sue's find. 

Your post seems to suggest that he went from being a crewmember to being a passenger, all in Sydney.   He was a passenger on the voyage into Adelaide arriving there 24 December, 1858.  That voyage obviously did not include Sydney.

Being Crew into any NSW port in October 1858 does not mean that he stayed onboard as a passenger while it was engaged in coastal trading between Melbourne and Adelaide in subsequent months.    As he was steerage into Adelaide 24 December 1858, it is sensible to consider he boarded in Melbourne rather than speculate that 'if he was a crew member on this ship to Sydney and then became a passenger'. 

ADD
When trying to find some of my elusive mariners I have found it sensible to look at the various voyages of the vessels they crewed on, to see if the various crewlists may give possible indications of where the vessels were most likely to return to regularly.   
 

JM

[rosball]

As I said earlier - it doesn't matter as there are more recent sightings.  I just noted that he had been crew on that ship and then became a passenger on that ship.

Let's get back to the search 

[majm]

I have added to my post. 

You see, I think it can matter, particularly when crewlists may show the mariner on many different vessels... going to various ports, not just Australian ones...

ADD

I can't see a marriage or death for him in South Australia https://www.genealogysa.org.au/

But if he did come to Adelaide as a passenger it implies he did intend to stay perhaps  ...?

JM