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Eileen Ethel Ann WEST born 1920 Bengal India
« on: Friday 28 July 17 17:50 BST (UK) »
Eileen E A West born St Mary Bengal India,Army Baptism 1920 record not much info,but found a birth registration 1921 appears same person Guildford,mother Scales.Not uncommon to have registered back in Blighty on return home.

She marries 1946 in Calcutta, to Fenner, an army record, trying to fill in the gap,as she is  nowhere to be found in 1939,and not with her family in Guildford Surrey before this time.Have not put on too much info as this is against RChat policy.Just think its strange that she should marry in Calcutta having been registered 1921 Guildford.Perhaps stationed there,have no idea .

Unless of of course there are two girls of the same name,but doubt this.
Any ideas please,and no I have not yet invested in certificates,Thanks,Brionne.
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Re: Eileen Ethel Ann WEST born 1920 Bengal India
« Reply #1 on: Friday 28 July 17 18:46 BST (UK) »
There is a death in 1988 Wiltshire for an Eileen Ann Fenner b 26.7.1920

Incoming passenger entry from Novia Scotia to Liverpool 24.8.1946 - Eileen Ann Fenner aged 25 - housewife.  Country of last permanent residence = India.   Address 26 St Mary's Rd Salisbury Wiltshire

Freebmd has a possible child born 1947 Wiltshire who married in Wiltshire 1965.  You may want to take a look at the surname of her spouse
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Re: Eileen Ethel Ann WEST born 1920 Bengal India
« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 July 17 21:06 BST (UK) »
Carol ,Many Thanks.
Yes I had already found the surname of the child born to the 1946 marriage,and her spouse name,this was my prime reason for this post.As its fairly recent history,and some folk may be still alive thought it best not to be too specific.
Sorry if I gave you necessary work it was not intentional.
The sailing record is great,as had found  nothing.at least now know Eileens route back into England.
Just discovered this lead today when editing 1939  in my own tree.
Another big thank you, Brionne
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Re: Eileen Ethel Ann WEST born 1920 Bengal India
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 July 17 21:27 BST (UK) »
Believe Eileen Wests father was Robert William Thomas West born 1874/5 Horsell Surrey.
Military service WW1, Army Service Corps 12th Jun 1915  Pte R4/095245      44th Battery Woking.
Mother, Beatrice May Scales born Walworth London 24 July 1882.
Large family of children,but no evidence of Eileen being with them.

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Re: Eileen Ethel Ann WEST born 1920 Bengal India
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 29 July 17 12:53 BST (UK) »
Carole,Would you be very kind and post the name of ship and any other person with Eileen Fenner arriving Liverpool August 1946.

There is no other source for this shipping record that I can find. Family Search do not have it.   Many thanks .


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Re: Eileen Ethel Ann WEST born 1920 Bengal India
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 29 July 17 15:31 BST (UK) »
just unearthed another another marriage to Aircraft Fitter Geoffrey Giles 1939 Surrey N.
Eileen E A Giles [Payne] and husband in Woking 1939.Her age is slightly different,11th Feb 1921.
But still believe this is the same person.
Unable to place her with a suitable Payne for a  later marriage.

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Re: Eileen Ethel Ann WEST born 1920 Bengal India
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 29 July 17 17:09 BST (UK) »
The ship was the Britannic of the Donaldson Line

I thought you said she was Eileen West who married Fenner?  Where does Eileen Payne/Giles fit in?
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Re: Eileen Ethel Ann WEST born 1920 Bengal India
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 29 July 17 19:09 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the ship info.

I have no idea about the 1939 marriage either but it looks correct.

Divorce before 1946 is an option, unable to find a death for Giles with correct date of birth that fits.
Is the 1946 marriage bigamous perhaps or even annulled,or are there two separate females,with the same name.
Payne is written clearly in her 1939 column with husband Giles She had married Giles 3rd quarter 1939 ,so that fits.But no sign of a second marriage in the name of Payne anywhere.
Its certainly a mystery.Would an early adoption by Payne be the answer.

Will fork out for certificates as looks to me the only way forward to clarify this accurately.
Appreciate your input thanks Brionne
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Re: Eileen Ethel Ann WEST born 1920 Bengal India
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 29 July 17 19:51 BST (UK) »
You say she was only born in 1920 as West - not as Payne.  Are you suggesting that she first married Payne then married Giles and then married Fenner?  All before the age of 26yrs??

Any marriage to Fenner would be under her previous married name but you say that West married Fenner in 1946 in India


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