Different mothers? COMPLETE

[KGarrad]

My step-grandfather was Thomas Coulton Ball, born 1879 in Wigan.

I have his Birth Registration, and censuses for 1881, 1891, 1901 and 1911.

However, when looking at his siblings birth /baptism records 2 different names appear as Mother's Maiden Name?! And no 2nd marriage.

Thomas' parents were Edward Ball and Margaret.
There is a marriage in 1872 for Edward and Margaret Fielding, at St Wilfrid, Standish.

However the chldren were:

Henry (1873) mmn Fielden
Mary (1874) mmn Ormesher
Barnett (1876) mmn Ormesher
Thomas (1879) mmn Fielden
Ann (1881) mmn Ormesher
Lavinia (1883) mmn Ormesher
Eleanorn (1884) mmn Ormesher
Elizabeth (1885) mmn Ormesher
James (1887) mmn Ormesher
Lucy (1888) mmn Ormesher
Joseph (1890) mmn Ormesher
Edward (1891) mmn Ormesher

Has anyone any ideas about the Ormesher name?

I have all the baptisms from LAN-OPC, and most of them from the GRO Index.

[josey]

Perhaps Margaret had been married before to Fielden/Fielding, her maiden name Ormesher, but confusedly registered some in her ?widowed name?. Forget that, marriage record shows father John Fielding.

She was a busy lady....

[isobelw]

There is a birth in Wigan in March quarter of  1854 for Margaret Fielding mmn Ormersher. This matches with Year/place of birth for your Margaret.
Isobel

[trish1120]

Marriage: 7 Nov 1859 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
James Houghton - (X), 42, Underlooker, Bachelor, Mesnes
Ann Fielding - (X), 30, Widow, Mesnes
Groom's Father: Thomas Houghton, Underlooker (deceased)
Bride's Father: Robert Ormishaw, Farmer

Trish

[trish1120]

1861 we have;
James Houghton, 47
Anne Houghton, 33
Margaret Fielding, 6
Thomas F Fielding, 1

[suzard]

Margaret's mother remarried 1859

7 Nov 1859 Wigan
James Houghton 42 Bachelor underlooker father Thomas Houghton occ Underlooker
Ann Fielding 30 WIDOW father Robert Ormishaw occ Farmer
witnesses William Atherton & Elizabeth Webster made thier mark

1861 census shows James Houghton wife Ann and daughter margaret Fielding

Suz

[KGarrad]

Thanks, Isobel! I couldn't see that for looking?

And thanks Josey. I already had the marriage details (from LAN-OPC).
Rather a lot of children, eh?!
And they were running a pub - The Royal Oak in Standish.

I tried searching for a Fielding-Ormesher marriage - but nothing on FreeBMD?
only a marriage for James Fielding to Ann Ormshaw, 1847?

Red writing - thanks, too trish
So, using her maternal grandfather's name? I wonder why?

[trish1120]

1st Marriage;
Marriage: 9 Aug 1847 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England
James Fielding,30, Collier, Widower, Wigan
Ann Ormshaw, 21, Spinster, Wigan
Fathers;
Charles Fielding, dead
Robert Ormshaw, Labourer
Witnesses, Henry Farrimond/Catharine Gerrard

[trish1120]

Margaret and Thomas Fieldings Baptisms only have their Mothers name ANN Fielding.