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Re: Drowned Able Seaman - Where?
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 30 July 17 00:16 BST (UK) »
Looking at it again, it could be either 49.30 west or 119.30 west.

And yes, 61 N would be up near Alaska!

Just tried my original reading in Google 'whereis' but it didn't come up with an answer ???

Can't find my atlas  ::)

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Re: Drowned Able Seaman - Where?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 30 July 17 00:33 BST (UK) »
If you key in 61 degrees North & 49.3 degrees West on google maps you appear south east of the Faroe Isles. This is probably the location. I'd be interested in finding out more about the vessel as well.
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Re: Drowned Able Seaman - Where?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 30 July 17 00:33 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Billyblue on Sunday 30 July 17 00:16 BST (UK)
61 N would be up near Alaska!

Not a day trip then  ::)

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Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

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Re: Drowned Able Seaman - Where?
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 30 July 17 00:38 BST (UK) »
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Drowned Able Seaman - Where?
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 30 July 17 13:59 BST (UK) »
I read it as 61.00 North X 49.7 West. This would give a position of  roughly 200 miles  East South East of Cape Farewell Greenland.
The following would seem to bear out this theory. It was reported in the Glasgow Herald 13/Oct/1891.
"Information has been received from Bergen, that the TRAVELLER of Peterhead, Ivigtut for Copenhagen. Has put in through to stress of weather.  One of the hands James Marr Barron belonging Peterhead having been lost overboard. The deceased leaves a widow and family"
Ivigtut was a small port in Greenland. Now abandoned it was a loading port for the deposits of Cryolite which were mined nearby. A vessel such as the TRAVELLER would be ideally suited to this trade.
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Re: Drowned Able Seaman - Where?
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 30 July 17 14:23 BST (UK) »
From the Peterhead Sentinel reporting the incident

"Barron was married and had three of a family, the oldest being only 6 years of age"

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Re: Drowned Able Seaman - Where?
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 30 July 17 16:26 BST (UK) »
TRAVELLER Official Number 58875, was built in 1868 (Launched March) at Peterhead by Robinson and co. for Ewen and co. Also of Peterhead. She was a wooden sailing ship of 196 Ton's. Schooner rigged. Sold some time in the mid 1870's to Alexander Simpson of Peterhead. Sold again sometime between 1886 and 1900 to William Varcoe Kellow, Pentewan, Par Station, Cornwall. She was deleted from the British register in 1924.
For a fuller more accurate record.
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_or1=58875&_cr=bt%20110&_dss=range&_ro=any&_st=adv
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Re: Drowned Able Seaman - Where?
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 30 July 17 17:07 BST (UK) »
Quote from: seaweed on Sunday 30 July 17 13:59 BST (UK)
I read it as 61.00 North X 49.7 West. This would give a position of  roughly 200 miles  East South East of Cape Farewell Greenland.

61.0 N 49.7 W is west of Ivigtut https://goo.gl/maps/1orGSawbTho

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Re: Drowned Able Seaman - Where?
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 30 July 17 19:40 BST (UK) »
How absolutely fantastic! Many thanks to you all for your assistance. The information you've provided has given me some leads to follow. He appeared in the censuses living with a family & stated he was a cousin. I could not find his birth on scotlandspeople, but now I have his full name & date of birth. :)
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