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DATING please ?? Daniel STANFIELD
« on: Monday 31 July 17 06:25 BST (UK) »
Please would you tell me if this dress and photo would fit for a man who lived 1790 - 1856.

I am having my doubts that this is the right person assigned to this photo.  :-\

The other contender is also Daniel Stanfield but born 1829 and died 1902.    :-\
My thought is that the latter could be more likely.


No restoring required thanks . . . .    Scan is not good.

Thanks folks,

Wiggy
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: DATING please ?? Daniel STANFIELD
« Reply #1 on: Monday 31 July 17 11:13 BST (UK) »
It's certainly named as the 1790 -1856 one on the web, Wiggy

https://firstfleetfellowship.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Daniel-Stanfield-cropped2.jpg

Dress style suggests 1850s to early 1860s.. so  :-\

Best wait for Jim - I'm not too good with estimating dates of gentlemen.
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Re: DATING please ?? Daniel STANFIELD
« Reply #2 on: Monday 31 July 17 11:21 BST (UK) »
Have we seen this before?
This man's dressed typical of the 1850's - early 1860's.
This looks like it's been digitally altered at some point & may possibly reversed.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: DATING please ?? Daniel STANFIELD
« Reply #3 on: Monday 31 July 17 11:22 BST (UK) »
Have we seen this before?


I thought so too  ???

PS - glad we agree on the date, Jim  :)
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« Reply #4 on: Monday 31 July 17 11:31 BST (UK) »
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Re: DATING please ?? Daniel STANFIELD
« Reply #5 on: Monday 31 July 17 11:44 BST (UK) »
Oh dear indeed.  :(

SO SORRY.  THE MINUTE Jim said about it being reversed, I remembered I'd posted it before.     :-[ :-[  :-[.

I do beg your pardon....... Obviously I didn't add this to my list of posted threads.

Apologies all round.

Thanks for confirming that this is most likely the son and not the father (to whom the photo has been assigned !)    Thought it looked wrong for someone dying of congestion in 1956 aged 66.   Well I think that is what you have done.   I think he is too young to be the 1790-1856 man.

Thanks Gadget and Jim.   

Wiggy.   I will try not to repeat the error. :-[ ;)
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: DATING please ?? Daniel STANFIELD
« Reply #6 on: Monday 31 July 17 12:01 BST (UK) »
Here is a much later  - and poorer photo of the Daniel who died in 1902  - so 'they' say. . .  can you say whether this is the same person??

What do you think?
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: DATING please ?? Daniel STANFIELD
« Reply #7 on: Monday 31 July 17 12:08 BST (UK) »
Similar eyes and nose, Wiggy, but not sure - do you have anything bigger and less contrasty?

Trouble is, if he's son of , then he could have similar features :-\

PS - this one has a definite ear lobe but not sure of the other as hair is over part of it - it may be a joined one
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Re: DATING please ?? Daniel STANFIELD
« Reply #8 on: Monday 31 July 17 12:14 BST (UK) »
No sorry nothing better - found this on the internet just by chance  - my line had gone off sideways by this time so I don't have access to this line's photos.

The one who died in 1856 was my GGGgrandfather  - the one who died in 1902 was a distant uncle, but yes, his son.

I know what you mean about familial similarity.   Tricky isn't it. 

The first photo just doesn't look like a bloke near the end of his life to me.     :-\ :-\ 

Thanks for your thoughts - I thought the nose, eye shape, and 'close' ears looked similar too.  i.e. not wide, sticking-out ears.
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

 Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.