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Offline Alberbury

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Re: Swain family (-ies) in and near Condover
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 02 August 17 21:39 BST (UK) »
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Esther Jane Swain
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:   21 November 1886   Berrington, Shropshire, England
residence:      Berrington, Shropshire, England   
father:   William Swain
mother:   Eleanor
 
Lewis Swain
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:   28 July 1889   Berrington, Shropshire, England
residence:      Berrington, Shropshire, England   
father:   William Swain
mother:   Eleanor

Thomas Swain
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:   21 June 1891   Berrington, Shropshire, England
residence:      Berrington, Shropshire, England   
father:   William Swain
mother:   Ellen

David Hugh Swain
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:   1 October 1893   Berrington, Shropshire, England
residence:      Berrington, Shropshire, England   
father:   William Swain
mother:   Eleanor

John Edwards Swain
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:   6 October 1895   Berrington, Shropshire, England
residence:      Berrington, Shropshire, England   
father:   William Swain
mother:   Ellenor


Name   Archy Clement Swain
Event Type   Birth Registration
Registration Quarter   Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year   1898
Registration District   Atcham
County   Shropshire
Event Place   Atcham, Shropshire, England
Volume   6A
Page   600
Line Number   90


John Edwards Swain. The middle name could give you clues to an earlier family.
Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carnal,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre, Chettoe,Cooper,Erpe,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam,Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds, Roberts,Rogers,Salter,Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont.  Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley  Prichard
Battersea  Young
Brechin  Allan,Barrie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Watt
Chelsea  Coates,Smith
Cheshire  Penlington
Emneth  Bennington
Wisbech  Bell,Briggs,Willcock

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Re: Swain family (-ies) in and near Condover
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 03 August 17 09:27 BST (UK) »
Alberbury, thanks again for this additional information. If you do this for everyone here you can't have time to eat or sleep! Re your suggestion about my great-uncle Jack Swain's second name, might not "Edwards" be a misprint for "Edward"? The records certainly contain plenty of those: my great grandmother's name is spelt variously Eleanor, Elenor and plain Ellen. Then there's the odd business of my grandfather Louis/Lewis* apparently understating his age on joining up - why would anyone do that? Most likely a clerical error by an army clerk. Re great-uncle Will(-iam) listed as part of the Roberts farming household at Llansantffraid in 1911, I suppose it's possible there was some sort of connection with his mother's being from Montgomeryshire.
Kind regards, Tony
*Grandfather's army records show his name clearly as "Louis" not "Lewis".

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Re: Swain family (-ies) in and near Condover
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 03 August 17 19:17 BST (UK) »
You're Welcome Tony.

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Name   William Swain
Event Type   Census
Event Date   1881
Event Place   Oswestry (Rural Part), Shropshire, England
Registration District   Oswestry
Gender   Male
Age   26
Marital Status (Original)   Single

William Swain   Head   M   63                                       Ponsbury, Shropshire, England
Elizabeth Swain   Wife   F   49                                       Ponsbury, Shropshire, England
Emma Swain   Daughter   F   12                               Maesbury, Shropshire, England
Sarah Mullard   Mother   F   77                               Pontsbury, Shropshire, England   :)
William Swain   Son   M   26            Farm Labourer      Maesbury, Shropshire, England


Name   William Swain
Event Type   Census
Event Date   1871
Event Place   Maesbury, Maesbury, Shropshire, England

William Swain   Head   M   59   Labourer                   Shropshire
Elizabeth Swain   Wife   F   40                                   Pontesbury, Shropshire
John Swain   Son   M   14                                   Maesbury, Shropshire
Edward Swain   Son   M   12                                   Maesbury, Shropshire
William Swain   Son   M   10                                   Maesbury, Shropshire
Sarah Swain   Daughter   F   7                           Maesbury, Shropshire
Mary I Swain   Daughter   F   4                           Maesbury, Shropshire
Emma Swain   Daughter   F   1                           Maesbury, Shropshire


Name   William Swain
County   Shropshire
Event Type   Census
Event Date   1861
Event Place   Maesbury, Shropshire, England
Ecclesiastical Parish   Trinity Church
Registration District   Oswestry
Residence Note   Marsh Lane

William Swain   Head   M   40   Lead Farmer Man       Pontesbury, Shropshire
Elizabeth Swain   Wife   F   24                                   Pontesbury, Shropshire
John Swain   Son   M   4                                  Oswestry, Shropshire
Edward Swain   Son   M   1                                  Oswestry, Shropshire


Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carnal,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre, Chettoe,Cooper,Erpe,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam,Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds, Roberts,Rogers,Salter,Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont.  Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley  Prichard
Battersea  Young
Brechin  Allan,Barrie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Watt
Chelsea  Coates,Smith
Cheshire  Penlington
Emneth  Bennington
Wisbech  Bell,Briggs,Willcock

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Re: Swain family (-ies) in and near Condover
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 03 August 17 19:38 BST (UK) »
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Name   William Swain
Event Type   Census
Event Date   1851
Event Place   Pontesbury, Shropshire, England
Registration District   Atcham
Gender   Male
Age   39
Marital Status   Wr

William Swain   Head   M   39   Labourer           Worthen, Salop
Ann Swain   Daughter   F   13                           Pontesbury, Salop
Richard Swain   Son   M   9                           Pontesbury, Salop
Elizabeth Swain   Daughter   F   7                   Pontesbury, Salop
Hannah Swain   Sister   F   32                   Pontesbury, Salop
Emma Swain   Niece   F   1                   Pontesbury, Salop


Name   William Swain
Event Type   Census
Event Date   1841
Event Place   Pontesbury, Shropshire, England
Residence Note   Church Street

William Swain      M   29-33   Shropshire
Elizabeth Swain      F   26-30   Shropshire
Ann Swain      F   3   Shropshire


William Swain
England Marriages, 15381973
marriage:   5 June 1837   Pontesbury, Shropshire, England   
spouse:   Elizabeth Gittoes

Anne Swaine
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:   9 May 1838   PONTESBURY, SHROPSHIRE, ENGLAND   
father:   William Swaine
mother:   Elizabeth


I would check all these records from the local archives at Shrewsbury or findmypast.
At the moment this is just guess work.
Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carnal,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre, Chettoe,Cooper,Erpe,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam,Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds, Roberts,Rogers,Salter,Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont.  Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley  Prichard
Battersea  Young
Brechin  Allan,Barrie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Watt
Chelsea  Coates,Smith
Cheshire  Penlington
Emneth  Bennington
Wisbech  Bell,Briggs,Willcock

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Re: Swain family (-ies) in and near Condover
« Reply #13 on: Friday 04 August 17 09:08 BST (UK) »
Further thanks, Alberbury - it starts to become a little confusing when one finds people with the same name and apparently the same age marrying on two occasions four years apart in the same place! This is the case with great-uncle William Swain... I can see that much comparing of records is necessary. It doesn't help that names and places are often spelled so differently.
Regards, Tony