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ROBERT WALKER & HANNAH AULT
« on: Wednesday 02 August 17 21:12 BST (UK) »
Hello all.

I'm after information regarding Robert Walker, b. 1825, Kedleston, & Hannah Ault, b abt 1828, Kirk Langley.

They married 6 Nov 1848, in Ashbourne, with Hannah's father being named as Thomas Ault, & Robert's father being named as Joseph.

They had 7 children:

Anne, b. 1850
Joseph, b. 1851
Aaron, b. 1852
Mary, b. 1853
Sarah, b. 1855
Harriett, b. 1857
Thomas Ault, b. 1860.

They moved from Kedleston, to Dalbury Lees, to finally settle in Kirk Langley.

On the 1851 census, they have Hannah's grandparents living with them, Joseph & Hannah Kirkland.  Joseph being from Kirk Langley, b. abt 1774, Hannah being from Mercaston (?), b. abt 1774.

I am struggling to find any Hannah Ault being born to a Thomas Ault, & any link for her to the Kirklands.

Any help on this matter would be much appreciated...as it's been bothering me since Christmas.

If any other information can be given on either Robert & Hannah that'd be even better.

I have been told Thomas Ault (their youngest son) led a strange/interesting life, so I'm wondering if there are some skeletons in closests in regards to this family.

Many thanks,

Lizzy.

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Re: ROBERT WALKER & HANNAH AULT
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 02 August 17 21:26 BST (UK) »
Hi there are a couple of baptisms for a Hannah Ault in Kirk Langley, the closest to c 1828 is:-

Hannah Ault 4th November 1827 Kirk Langley, St Michaels Mother Hannah
Notes: Illegitimate, Spinster.
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Re: ROBERT WALKER & HANNAH AULT
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 02 August 17 21:29 BST (UK) »
Hi, yes that's the one I've found & corresponds with all the information I have on her through the census.  But from that I can't find any link to the Kirklands, unless they took her in, also doesn't explain why her father is named at her marriage as Thomas.  It's driving me crazy!

I've done DNA testing too, & that's coming up with nothing!

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Re: ROBERT WALKER & HANNAH AULT
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 02 August 17 21:42 BST (UK) »
 ??? There is also this marriage:-

Joseph Kirkland to Hannah Ault 2nd May 1820 Kirk Langley Witnesses Thomas and Elizabeth Radford
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Re: ROBERT WALKER & HANNAH AULT
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 02 August 17 21:58 BST (UK) »
Ah, that's interesting.

I have been trying to follow Thomas Ault, b. 1799, his mother was Hannah, his father William. So I was wondering if maybe his father died & she remarried a Kirkland. That would fit, if I can find Williams death.

Although, I can find no Thomas having a Hannah with the dates she's given. I can find a Hannah Ault being b. 1815, Brailsford, 4 minutes away from Kirk Langley, but that's all.

Unless Hannah had a child with Joseph, whom was in the navy, & with her being close to 50, her son took the child in instead. Or even a sister of Thomas's

This is like working through a minefield.

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Re: ROBERT WALKER & HANNAH AULT
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 02 August 17 22:50 BST (UK) »
Not forgetting Joseph and Hannah are grandparents to Hannah Walker nee Ault

So Hannah who marries Joseph in 1820 would be mother to a Hannah born probably c1800-1810. Hannah the gran marries Joseph in 1820, once both are widowed. Middle Hannah has young Hannah illegitimately in 1827.

Might be worth noting there;'s a marriage of a Hannah Ault to John Alsop in Kirk Langley in Dec 1830 - they are potentially in Yeldersley in 1851, judging by the children with matching mmn on GRO

Young Hannah wouldn;t be the first to make up a father's name for respectability

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Re: ROBERT WALKER & HANNAH AULT
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 02 August 17 22:57 BST (UK) »
That's my thinking to what has gone on.

I'm finding the Derbyshire records a bit sketchy in places.

Although, there is a Joseph Kirkland whom dies in 1825, killed by a wagon.  If that is the same Joseph who marries Hannah Ault (unusual to use married name in remarriage), that would make Hannah Jnr illegitimate, & Hannah Snr would have reverted back to maiden name.  Whom I'm wondering if she then goes on to remarry John Alsop.  With the possibility of Thomas actually being Hannah Jnr's uncle.  & she's been brought up thinking Joseph Kirkland is her father, for the Kirklands to be stated as her grandparents in 1851 census, even though she's not.

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Re: ROBERT WALKER & HANNAH AULT
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 02 August 17 23:09 BST (UK) »
I like the possibility of the Hannah who married John Alsop being the  illegitimate daughter of the Hannah Ault who married Joseph Kirkland!

The Alsop family in 1841:-

Charles Allsop 80
John 30
Hannah 30
Mary 10
Sarah 8
Joseph 6
William 5
Ann 2
John 10 months
Residing at Yeldersley, Ashbourne.
Census Ref HO107/179/ 5/2 / 14
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Re: ROBERT WALKER & HANNAH AULT
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 02 August 17 23:14 BST (UK) »
  :D Either way it makes for interesting reading in the family history.  Could explain why Thomas Ault (1860) was such a character.

Thank you so much for you're help.  I don't think this search is completely over.