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Robert Morris Avondale road sparkhill
« on: Thursday 03 August 17 16:57 BST (UK) »
Family mystery Jonas strong born 1839 berkswell living in warstock farm in 1859 daughter Mary Ann married Robert Morris had 8 children living in 73 Avondale road sparkhill in1901 age 37 then disappears moved to Ruthin where he was born but now using the name Robert Parry known in Ruthin as Parry the saddler supposed to have killed a policeman accidentally this would have been after 1901 family secret Can't find any records of policeman murdered at that time any out there who can help or point me in the right direction

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Re: Robert Morris Avondale road sparkhill
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 03 August 17 20:08 BST (UK) »
Hi and Welcome to Rootschat

No birthyears/birthplaces included in your post so here is the full 1901 entry for reference

Robert Morris   38  Horse ?? b Wales (1891 shows birthplace as Claverdon Warwickshire)
Mary A  40 b Birmingham
Robert J  14 b Worcs
Elsie  13       ditto
Maud M  13   ditto
Dora  11      ditto
Thomas  9 b Solihull
Gertrude     6 b Birmingham
Edith  3    ditto
Charles  2 ditto
Hilda  6mths b Sparkhill
RG13 Piece 2925 Folio 34 Page 12
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

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Re: Robert Morris Avondale road sparkhill
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 03 August 17 20:15 BST (UK) »
He married as John Robert Morris

Marriages September qtr 1883       
John Robert Morris    Birmingham 6d   262    
Mary Ann Strong   

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then disappears moved to Ruthin where he was born but now using the name Robert Parry known in Ruthin as Parry the saddler supposed to have killed a policeman accidentally this would have been after 1901 family secret Can't find any records of policeman murdered at that time any out there who can help or point me in the right direction
   

Have you found the family in 1911?  Where were they living?

In Denbighshire in 1911 as Parry
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Re: Robert Morris Avondale road sparkhill
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 05 August 17 08:07 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that he also comes up birthplace llanfwrog Ruthin in 1863 and also Newtown Powys regarding the myrder/manslaughter of policeman found out that Worcester a police sgt frank short died 7th October 1905 age 47 at his station he never fully recovered from an assault in 1901 have been trying to e mail sparkhill police museum with the e mail address they give but it keeps bouncing back? Nee to know if he was a suspect in this case?


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Re: Robert Morris Avondale road sparkhill
« Reply #4 on: Monday 07 August 17 18:59 BST (UK) »
Garla,

Sparkhill Police Museum is closed at the moment following the death of its curator.

Regards,

Keith

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Re: Robert Morris Avondale road sparkhill
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 09 August 17 06:57 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that is sparkhill police museum the best place to check records

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Re: Robert Morris Avondale road sparkhill
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 09 August 17 20:30 BST (UK) »
I can't immediately think of anywhere else but there are no current plans to reopen the police museum because they have no-one to run it.

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Re: Robert Morris Avondale road sparkhill
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 10 August 17 07:17 BST (UK) »
Thank you perhaps you could let me know if it reopens

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Re: Robert Morris Avondale road sparkhill
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 10 August 17 17:54 BST (UK) »

Hi,

Some info about the assault of  Sergeant SHORT in 1901 here,

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01kiu/

Unfortunately it doesn't seem to involve the man you are looking for.

Regards,
Daisy
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