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Trying to sort out Ann Carter's parentage
« on: Friday 04 August 17 16:36 BST (UK) »
James Holgate married Ann Carter in Debden on 7 April 1806. The marriage record gives her name as Ann Carter otherwise Moore spinster of this parish and minor.
I have found a baptism for Ann Carter daughter of Sarah Carter on 29 Mar 1789 (born 18 Mar). Which would make her 17 when she married.
There is a marriage between John Moore widower and Sarah Carter widow at Debden on 1 July 1792.

So it looks as if Sarah was widowed when Ann was baptised as no father mentioned, but as she wasn't said to be base born, it would imply Mr Carter had not died very long before and was Ann's father.

But if that was the case why was Ann also known as Ann Moore? Was she actually John Moore's daughter, but he and Sarah weren't free to marry until the first Mrs Moore died.

Can anyone find first marriages for Sarah and John and deaths of their first spouses, please?

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Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
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Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
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Re: Trying to sort out Ann Carter's parentage
« Reply #1 on: Friday 04 August 17 17:24 BST (UK) »
There is a Mary wife of John Moore, buried in Debden in April, 1787.

Looks like John buried in Debden in 1831, birth year c1747 and Sarah in 1831, birth year  c1750.

John Moor married Mary Jennings in Debden on 12th February, 1772, both single and of the parish.


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Re: Trying to sort out Ann Carter's parentage
« Reply #2 on: Friday 04 August 17 18:14 BST (UK) »
Debden

John, son of Robert and Ann Moor, baptised 16th April, 1749.


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Re: Trying to sort out Ann Carter's parentage
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 August 17 18:07 BST (UK) »
The marriage record has a note to the right. I think it says 'this  a minor'. I would say that she was born a carter but used her stepfather's name unofficially?
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Re: Trying to sort out Ann Carter's parentage
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 16 August 17 19:07 BST (UK) »
Thank you everyone, it now seems likely that Ann was born a Carter, but adopted her step fathers surname of Moore.
But who was her natural father? Was Sarah Carter single or widowed when Ann was born?
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Scott
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott
Essex/Herts: Livermore, Holgate, Law, Day, Myson, Boyton
Norfolk/Suffolk: Stone, Alexander, Tipple, Ingate

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Re: Trying to sort out Ann Carter's parentage
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 August 17 15:01 BST (UK) »
She may have had another Child also;
JAMES Carter Baptised 24 Dec 1786 St Mary, Debden, birth 18 Nov 1786
Mother SARY Carter
Register note; bastard
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FreeREG also has Anns 1789 Baptism, no mention of Mother as a Widow, just that she is a Pauper.

This may be them;
Other Baptisms same Church;
SUSANNA Carter 31 May 1778
WILLIAM Carter 11 Mar 1781
Parents JOHN/SARAH** Carter

JOHN Carter buried 30 Aug 1783 St Mary, Debden

Trish :)

EDIT cant find a Marriage Debden but FreeREG has a possible for John/Sarah 1777 Bocking
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