Ann Ralph married 1852

[Brian75]

Hi trying to find the Maiden name for Ann Ralph
Ann married Henry Byron in 1852 At All Saints Church in Hull
Marriage certificate say that she was a Widow would like to find her maiden name.  Could anyone  Help please
Brian.

[PaulineJ]

did this second marriage produce any offspring?
What years, and what names?

is there no father's name for her on the certificate?

all saints is actually Sculcoates, not Hull

Pauline

[Kay99]

Looking at the couples children in the 1861 census - the GRO Birth index lists two of them with mother's maiden Thomas - will check the others

Sorry eyes playing up - ignore


Kay

[Annette7]

They married 24/5/1852 and she is shown as Ann Ralph, widow, father John Thomas, Labourer.    A witness was a Mary Ann Thomas.

Annette

[chempat]

This is a possible child for them, could be called Henry and a nephew in 1861 census:
Birth
John Henry Byron, mmn Thomas
December quarter 1852  Sculcoates
Ann Ralph born 1810 is easy to find in 1851 with family including a daughter Mary.

[Brian75]

Hi
Thank you for the info   But I cannot find any marriage to a Ralph, so I don't know how to go about it now.  Also when married to Byron in 1852 age was down as 37 this would have made her born 1815
Brian

[avm228]

I'd suggest you have a look back at 1841:

Clean Alley, Sculcoates (same address as in 1851)

George Ralph 30 Sawyer J N[ot born in county]
Ann do 25 Y
Joseph do 12 Y
Bessey do 11 Y
Mary Ann do 8 Y
John do 7 Y
Louisa do 2 Y [Birth reg: Louisa Ralph, Sep qtr 1839 Sculcoates, mmn Thomas]

[avm228]

Then for George's death you can look at FreeBMD or YorkshireBMD (the latter includes age at death for this period):

George Ralph aged 41 died Sculcoates (Sutton subdistrict), Mar qtr 1850.

He was buried at Sutton on 20 Jan 1850, aged 41, abode 13 Clean Alley, Witham, Hull.

[Annette7]

Going back beyond census and BMD records, entering the realms of parish records, you have to be more flexible when looking at spelling of surnames, etc.

Have found the marriage:

George Relfe bachelor, Sawyer married Ann Thomas, spinster, 23/7/1828 Sutton on Hull, Yorkshire - one of the witnesses was John Thomas (can't read the name of the other) (from  Yorkshire Marriages on FindMyPast).

Annette