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Re: WW1 Sjt Francis T Croxford Duke of Cornwall's LI 26628 / Labour Corp 93118
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 06 August 17 17:51 BST (UK) »
Nic

I knew the question was on its way but the grass needed cutting!

The Labour Corps companies are notoriously difficult to research (see the Labour Corps page on LLT).  They were grouped into Groups (what else!) and, although there may have been the odd exception,  did not keep individual diaries.  The Group headquarters kept diaries, this list shows how many there were in France/Flanders..  http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_aq=labour%20group&_ep=France&_cr=WO&_dss=range&_ro=any&_p=1900&_st=adv  They haven't been digitised and don't go beyond the autumn of 1917. 

However, mirabile dictu, having just looked at some of the group diaries I obtained for another project recently, I find I have one that includes 156 Company.  I'll send you my direct email by PM, reply to that and I'll send it on.  Hovever (again) you will I'm afraid be disappointed, the diary records the comings and goings of the Group CO and little else.  I haven't yet checked around for 175 Company which he joined in March 19.

More in due course, PM on the way.

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Re: WW1 Sjt Francis T Croxford Duke of Cornwall's LI 26628 / Labour Corp 93118
« Reply #10 on: Monday 07 August 17 08:50 BST (UK) »
For the record good news and bad news.

Bad news.  The Group diary I referred to in my last post did not include 156 Coy, I had mis-read 155.

Good news.  Thanks again to a real expert elsewhere who suggested a bit of lateral thinking, I can at least say that 175 Company were working in the vicinity of Roisel on 21 March 1918 (the start of the German Operation Michael offensive) because at least two members of the company were decorated for gallantry for their actions on that day. The citation for one, Cpl Gough, is here https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/31534/supplement/11121

The search continues.

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Nic  Direct email later.

I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



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Re: WW1 Sjt Francis T Croxford DCLI 26628 / 156/175 Labour Corps 93118
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 26 August 18 14:49 BST (UK) »
Good afternoon,

Following up the excellent help that I received last year, I have attached a summary of Francis and would be grateful if someone could look over the military aspects to see if I have collated them correctly.

Many thanks,

Nic
Berkshire: Clarke, Croxford, Eustace
Bilston, Staffordshire: Dean
Devon: Blackmore, Matthews
Gwyddelwern, Betws GG, Denbighshire: Davies, Evans
Glamorgan: Dean, Matthews
Hull: Grant, Nicholson, Patterson, White
Newcastle: Patterson
Shafton, Yorkshire: Miles, Moulson,
Wiltshire: Emery

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Re: WW1 Sjt Francis T Croxford Duke of Cornwall's LI 26628 / Labour Corp 93118
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 26 August 18 15:49 BST (UK) »
Herewith:
Under Regiments
He wasn’t promoted Serjeant until he was in the Labour Corps.  If you put that against 156 Company then you should put his other promotions against the relevant units or alternatively, as you have them later, leave the ranks off this part.
Insert Company between 156th and Labour and between 175th and Labour
Under Service history
Although not recorded it seems clear from the dates that he enlisted under the Derby Scheme in Dec 1915, makes clear he was a volunteer.
2-27 March he was at the Depot of the Berkshire Regiment at Reading  doing his basic training.
Delete “possibly compulsorily”. (That had been my first thought but later corrected – 12 Bn DCLI disbanded to become  part of the Labour Corps so he had to go somewhere!):
Transferred to 156th Company Labour Corps.  (Company numbers come first)
Re-word:  12th Battalion DCLI became 156 and 157 Companies of the Labour Corps and so ceased to exist from May 1917.  The Labour Corps itself had been formed in January 1917.
12/18 156th Company Labour Corps(Company numbers come first)
16 Sep 18 - the Boulogne reference is leave to UK via Boulogne
15 Mar 1919 – he was posted to 175 from 156 – the “possibly compulsorily” is redundant
12 8 19 leave was to UK
He was discharged in UK at Crystal Palace on 12 Sep 19, the 7 Sep 19 Maubeuge document was the beginning of the admin process in France.
You don't record his employment (as Roadman) anywhere
Medical category B2 -  http://epsomandewellhistoryexplorer.org.uk/MedicalCategories.html

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I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



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Re: WW1 Sjt Francis T Croxford Duke of Cornwall's LI 26628 / Labour Corp 93118
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 26 August 18 16:33 BST (UK) »
Hi MaxD - as you always, you are an absolute star.

Thank you for highlighting the corrections.  I have amended as suggested and reattached.  I would be grateful for your input into the content of the other attached extract please (i.e. the location)

Regards,

Nic

Berkshire: Clarke, Croxford, Eustace
Bilston, Staffordshire: Dean
Devon: Blackmore, Matthews
Gwyddelwern, Betws GG, Denbighshire: Davies, Evans
Glamorgan: Dean, Matthews
Hull: Grant, Nicholson, Patterson, White
Newcastle: Patterson
Shafton, Yorkshire: Miles, Moulson,
Wiltshire: Emery

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Re: WW1 Sjt Francis T Croxford Duke of Cornwall's LI 26628 / Labour Corp 93118
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 26 August 18 17:53 BST (UK) »
Furlough (leave) to UK


Review the update later.

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It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



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Re: WW1 Sjt Francis T Croxford Duke of Cornwall's LI 26628 / Labour Corp 93118
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 26 August 18 19:34 BST (UK) »
Perfection approaches!

You've lost his service number from the DCLI in the regiments section
The place he had his medical was Maubeuge (France).
Inconsistency with company numbers 156th (etc) and 156 - suggest the latter

Great Effort!

MaxD
I am Zoe Northeast, granddaughter of Maximilian Double.
 
It is with great difficulty I share with you that in the early hours of 07 August 2021, Maximilian passed away unexpectedly but peacefully.

With deep sadness,
Zoe



Double  Essex/Suffolk
Randle/Millington Warwicks
Sokser/Klingler Austria/Croatia