Elizabeth Wilson (nee Spence)

[themonkeymonkey]

Yes on James's death certificate it says parents are Alexander Wilson and Elizabeth Spence.  Keith was in Banffshire until 1975 it is now classed as in Morayshire.  Finding the birth and death of Alexander is proving tricky so far.  Thanks for your help.

[themonkeymonkey]

I've come across another anomaly in Elizabeth Spence death certificate, it gives the witness as being Richard Noble (its definitely Richard and what I can make out to be Noble) and he is classed as either her son or son in law, as she only had 1 daughter Mary Wilson who died aged 23 in 1868 and as far as i can make out was unmarried with no children.

[themonkeymonkey]

can i post a copy of the death certificate to see if anyone else can make out the name?  Thanks

[Fordyce]

I agree this looks like Alexander Wilson in 1851:
Upper Inverichney, Alvah (per FreeCEN):-
WILSON Alexander Servnt Married Male    32 Ag. Lab Banffshire - Deskford

I couldn't find a suitable baptism. So (knowing Deskford!) might he have been illegitimate, and recorded under his mother's name, and this is why you cannot find his parentage?

How about this:
"7 JUNE 1818 ANN WRIGHT had a Child baptised this day by the Revd William Thompson Preshome and named ALEXANDER. Witnesses George McCurach & Ann Hepburn." - Deskford OPR.

Could this be a baptism carried out by Catholic priest in the Deskford Established church? The one time I've come across 'Spence' locally it was in a Catholic context too. There is a timely George McCurach (married to Margaret Kemp) clearly a Catholic family living around Bogshalloch and Clochan in the Enzie, also with Catholic connotations; and I can discern at least one timely Ann Hepburn, in Dufftown in 1841 and a meal seller in Buckie in 1851.

As for Ann Wright, one candidate is Anne Wright b 1788 Carrothead, Deskford to George Wright & Anne Andrew - they were CoS with an MI in Deskford churchyard. I have her in my tree but know nothing of her after her baptism.

All this is speculative. Who did you say Elizabeth Spence's parents were, from her death certificate? Finding out about them might help.

In 1841, assuming he's using the surname Wilson, and keeping it local, despite the 'wrong' age:
Squardoch, Deskford, with others same recorded age:
WILSON Alxr M 15 Shoemaker Appren born Banffshire

but there's also, recalling him being in Alvah in 1851
Newton Of Montblairy, Alvah, with others same recorded age:
WILSON Alexander M 15 Ag Labourer born Banffshire

[themonkeymonkey]

Thanks for all the avenues to chase up .  Elizabeths parents were suppsedly William Spence (1771-1855) and Helen Jenkins (1771 - 1861) but on Elizabeths death certificate is gives her mum as Isabella Hendry which has me confused.  Thanks.

[Millmoor]

Hello again

Have to ask what your evidence  is that Elizabeth's parents were supposedly William Spence and HelenJenkins. My reason for doing so is that both Forfarian and I have pointed out that census evidence gives her place of birth as Banff in the county of Banff and not Keith.

Re the death certificate you have downloaded for Elizabeth Wilson does it give her father's name? You could download a snip from it so that we could try to identify the informant's name. It is worth pointing out that census and OPR evidence provided by Monica L would suggest that Alexander and Elizabeth Wilson had a second daughter called Isabella. Might it be worth searching for a marriage between her and Richard Noble?

[themonkeymonkey]

I have attached what proof I have, Keith was in Banffshire until 1975 then became part of Morayshire.
I will search for a Isabella thank you.

[themonkeymonkey]

Here is the death notice, thanks.

[themonkeymonkey]

Death notice