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Offline norma_jess

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Benjamin Thomas.
« on: Monday 14 August 17 15:08 BST (UK) »


I am looking for Benjamin Thomas in the 1841 census with a view to finding his father's name and where and when his parents where married and if there where any siblings to find out how John
Griffiths is related. Is he nephew to Benjamin or Hannah.

1851 Census.

Benjamin    Thomas    Head    Unmarried    Male    28    1823    Freeholder & Farmer Of 34 Acres Employing 1 Lab    Denbighshire, Wales    
Hannah    Thomas    Mother    Widow    Female    67    1784    Farmer's Mother Widow    Denbighshire, Wales    
John    Griffiths    Nephew    Unmarried    Male    19    1832    Ag Lab Nephew    Denbighshire, Wales    
Catherine    Edwards    Servant    Unmarried    Female    20    1831    House Servant    Mold, Flintshire, Wales

1861. Census

Benjamin    Thomas    Head    Married    Male    38    1823    Grocer    Llanarmon, Denbighshire, Wales    
Elizabeth A    Thomas    Wife    Married    Female    25    1836    -    Mold, Flintshire, Wales    
Hannah    Thomas    Mother    Widow    Female    77    1784    Grocers Widow    St Asaph, Flintshire, Wales    
Martha A    Jones    Niece    -    Female    10    1851    Scholar    Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales

1871 Census.
Benjamin    Thomas    Head    -    Male    48    1823    -    Denbighshire, Wales    
Elizabeth Arabella    Thomas    Wife    -    Female    35    1836    -    Flintshire, Wales    
John    Thomas    Son    -    Male    9    1862    -    Flintshire, Wales    
Hannah    Thomas    Daughter    -    Female    8    1863    -    Denbighshire, Wales    
Jane    Jones    Servant    -    Female    17    1854    -    Denbighshire, Wales

Regards Norma
North Wales Denbighshire .Williams. Hopwood.
Flintshire. Williams. Griffiths. Clarke. Hopwood.
Cheshire. Darlington. Stubbs.
Staffordshire. Darlington. Stubbs. Fieldhouse. Biddulph.
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Lancashire. Johnson/Johnston. Bebbington. Harris. Pimlott.
Cumberland. Marriner. Tuddenham. Crozier, Bell. Johnson/Johnston. Norman.
Northumberland.  Marriner. Leathard. Common
Norfolk. Tuddenham. Rolfe. Rosier.

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Re: Benjamin Thomas.
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 August 17 15:52 BST (UK) »
Possible birth reg for Martha A Jones who is with them in 1861
JONES, MARTHA  ANN     THOMAS     
1851  March Quarter in WREXHAM  Volume 27  Page 291
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Re: Benjamin Thomas.
« Reply #2 on: Monday 14 August 17 16:35 BST (UK) »


I am looking for Benjamin Thomas in the 1841 census with a view to finding his father's name and where and when his parents where married and if there where any siblings to find out how John
Griffiths is related. Is he nephew to Benjamin or Hannah.

1851 Census.

Benjamin    Thomas    Head    Unmarried    Male    28    1823    Freeholder & Farmer Of 34 Acres Employing 1 Lab    Denbighshire, Wales    
Hannah    Thomas    Mother    Widow    Female    67    1784    Farmer's Mother Widow    Denbighshire, Wales    
John    Griffiths    Nephew    Unmarried    Male    19    1832    Ag Lab Nephew    Denbighshire, Wales    
Catherine    Edwards    Servant    Unmarried    Female    20    1831    House Servant    Mold, Flintshire, Wales

1861. Census

Benjamin    Thomas    Head    Married    Male    38    1823    Grocer    Llanarmon, Denbighshire, Wales    
Elizabeth A    Thomas    Wife    Married    Female    25    1836    -    Mold, Flintshire, Wales    
Hannah    Thomas    Mother    Widow    Female    77    1784    Grocers Widow    St Asaph, Flintshire, Wales    
Martha A    Jones    Niece    -    Female    10    1851    Scholar    Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales

1871 Census.
Benjamin    Thomas    Head    -    Male    48    1823    -    Denbighshire, Wales    
Elizabeth Arabella    Thomas    Wife    -    Female    35    1836    -    Flintshire, Wales    
John    Thomas    Son    -    Male    9    1862    -    Flintshire, Wales    
Hannah    Thomas    Daughter    -    Female    8    1863    -    Denbighshire, Wales    
Jane    Jones    Servant    -    Female    17    1854    -    Denbighshire, Wales

Regards Norma

If he was living in the Wrexham area in 1841 you won't find him.The entire Census for the Wrexham area is missing.

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Benjamin Thomas.
« Reply #3 on: Monday 14 August 17 19:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Norma

Do you have Benjamin's marriage certificate? That should give you his father's name.

Possible marriage? Gt Boughton RD covered a part of Flintshire.

Marriages Dec 1860   

Davies    Elizabeth Arabella     Gt Boughton    8a   558     ***
Jones    Margaret        Gt Boughton    8a   558   
Jones    Peter        Gt Boughton    8a   558   
THOMAS    Benjamin        Gt. Boughton    8a   558            ***

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Re: Benjamin Thomas.
« Reply #4 on: Monday 14 August 17 19:37 BST (UK) »
Great Boughton also (and mainly) covered Chester

21 Dec 1860 St Oswald, Chester

Benjamin Thomas and Elizabeth Arabella Davies

Benjamin's father - John Thomas, dec,. farmer

Elizabeth's father - Robert Davies, farmer


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Re: Benjamin Thomas.
« Reply #5 on: Monday 14 August 17 19:46 BST (UK) »
I don't immediately see a marriage for a John Thomas and a Hannah - could be Flintshire, Denbighshire or Cheshire  :-\

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Re: Benjamin Thomas.
« Reply #6 on: Monday 14 August 17 19:58 BST (UK) »
Thankyou Gadget  ;D

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Re: Benjamin Thomas.
« Reply #7 on: Monday 14 August 17 20:04 BST (UK) »
I know of the Gt Boughton RD  as some of OH's ancestors were born there  - so automatically thought 'Chester'  :)

I've looked for John and Hannah's marriage on FreeReg and on my own Welsh sources but so far nothing  :-\

Will have a think - could be a non-conformist marriage that's not been transcribed.


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Re: Benjamin Thomas.
« Reply #8 on: Monday 14 August 17 20:20 BST (UK) »
Just posting this because I found it - not necessarily correct!

Name           John Thomas
Event Type   Marriage
Event Date   24 Jan 1814
Event Place   Ruabon, Denbighshire, Wales
Spouse's Name   Hannah Jones

Any more suggestions peeps?


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