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Re: Thomas Knight c1800
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 19 August 17 21:35 BST (UK) »
From my refs, baptisms for William's children

St Margaret
KNIGHT   PRISCILLA   WILLIAM & MARY ANN   
1843   15-Feb   Occ Labourer....Goddard Place

KNIGHT   WILLIAM   WILLIAM & MARY ANN   
1846   18-Mar   Occ Labourer....Goddard Place

KNIGHT   ROSANNA   WILLIAM & MARY ANN   
1848   23-Jul    Occ Labourer....Royal East Street

KNIGHT   SUSANNA   WILLIAM & MARY ANN   
1852   27-Oct   Occ Labourer....Wheat Street

KNIGHT   THOMAS EDMUND   WILLIAM & MARY ANN   
1857   11-Jan  Occ Labourer....Wheat Street

KNIGHT   MARY ANN   WILLIAM & MARY ANN   
1858   26-Dec   Occ General Dealer....Wheat Street

KNIGHT, ELIZA  ANN      AKINS      
1850  J Quarter in LEICESTER  Volume 15  Page 130
Not sure St Margaret's
KNIGHT   ELIZA ANN    WILLIAM & MARY ANN   
1850   28-Jul    Occ Bricklayer....Little George Street

Catherine and James are baptised the same day at St Matthews 30th Nov. 1870
Palmerstone Street, William as labourer
Willsy

Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

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Re: Thomas Knight c1800
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 19 August 17 23:14 BST (UK) »
There's a case in the paper

THE POISONING CASE.
The Leicester Chronicle: or, Commercial and Agricultural Advertiser (Leicester, England), Saturday, December 06, 1856

involving a Samuel Wedge

Eliza gives evidence as she has been stepping out with him and the she lives with her mother Catherine in Benford Street. She says she has a father but he is not in the town.
Eliza later marries Samuel

St Margaret
Entry No.260,  APR 27, 1857, after Banns
SAMUEL WEDGE, 21, bach. BRICK MAKER, of CARLEY St, s. of SAMUEL WEDGE, FWK
ELIZA KNIGHT, 22, sp. of CARLEY St, d. of THOMAS KNIGHT, WOOL COMBER
Wits: JOHN KNIGHT, ELIZA KNIGHT

Was thinking the witnesses could be John and Eliza was Watts

Baptism St Margaret's
KNIGHT   ELIZA   THOMAS & CATHERINE   1834   30-May  Occ Woolcomber....Wheat Street



Willsy

Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Thomas Knight c1800
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 19 August 17 23:35 BST (UK) »
Then it says William Loundes lodges with Catherine, well this has come back to bite me as I wasn't sure when I found it....( in the article Ann Fowkes and Joseph Knight also )

1851

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGFV-5QH

Piccadilly Street
William    Lownds    Head    Married    Male    31    1820    Labourer    Staffordshire,
Caroline    Knight    Lodger    Married    Female    47    1804    Seamer    
Joseph    Knight    Son    -    Male    12    1839    Roap Yard

1861 Benford Street

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7T2-RPN

Caroline Knight    Head    F    60    
Judah Smith    Nursechild    M    0    
William Lounds    Boarder    M    41

1871 Benford Street

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFTJ-YPD

Ann Fowkes    Head    F    72    
William Loundes    Boarder    M    51    
Caroline Knight    Boarder    F    70    
William Smith    Boarder    M    11
Willsy

Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

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Re: Thomas Knight c1800
« Reply #21 on: Monday 21 August 17 12:23 BST (UK) »
Many thanks Willsy, the article about the poisoning case is very interesting. I thought that Thomas and Catherine must be living separately but couldn't find Catherine after 1841 so it looks like she began calling herself Caroline.  :)
Knight, Bates, Newton, Pick,Perkins, Marshall, North, Kilby, Beckett, Prince.

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Re: Thomas Knight c1800
« Reply #22 on: Monday 21 August 17 22:05 BST (UK) »
This one, a report on the evidence

Leicestershire Mercury 29 November 1856

Lists her as Caroline

Eliza says.....my mother, aunt and brother and a young man who lives with us, were in the house at the time....

Was looking at Ann Fowkes last night but will have another look, there is a Thomas Fowkes witness at Catherine's marriage
Willsy

Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

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Re: Thomas Knight c1800
« Reply #23 on: Monday 21 August 17 22:42 BST (UK) »
1841 Thomas and Ann

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQYG-ZKJ

1851

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGF3-M3C

Thomas Fowkes    Head    M    55    St Marys
Ann Fowkes    Wife    F    51    St Marys
Thomas Knight    Nephew    M    19    St Margts

1861 Next door to Catherine

Marriage
Leicester, St. Mary   25-Dec   1818   Banns   
Thomas   Fowkes   OTP            
Ann   Hamsley   OTP

James Fowkes and Catherine Hamsley witnesses
Willsy

Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

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Re: Thomas Knight c1800
« Reply #24 on: Monday 21 August 17 22:50 BST (UK) »
Thought you might have these but just in case

St Margaret
HAMSLEY    ANN   WILLIAM & CLARISSA                   1798   08-Dec
HAMSLEY   CATHERINE   WILLIAM & CLARISSA   1801   01-Oct
HAMSLEY   JAMES   WILLIAM & CLARISSA           1795   07-Jul
Willsy

Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

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Re: Thomas Knight c1800
« Reply #25 on: Monday 21 August 17 23:14 BST (UK) »
Did find a stray bap. at St George

KNIGHT   THOMAS EDWARD   1831   THOMAS & CATHARINE   09-Feb
Wheat Street, Woolcomber

Willsy

Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

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Re: Thomas Knight c1800
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 22 August 17 13:53 BST (UK) »
So it looks like Ann was Catherine's sister and either married a Fowkes then married Thomas Fowkes or changed her name to Fowkes before she married Thomas. I haven't started on the females of the grandfather Knights yet so didn't have those dates so thanks for letting me have them Willsy.

Does the article mention who was poisoned or why?

I have Thomas and Catherine's children as
Leic St Margaret:
Ann 1820
William 1822
Eliza 1825 buried 1826
Louisa and John James 24.10.1827
and possibly Eliza Ann bapt 30.5.1834

Leic St George
Thomas Edward 9.2.1831 (I have his details as Thomas B: 1838)
Elizabeth 1832
Joseph 1839

I wonder if Thomas Edward died before 1838 and there was a baby boy born in 1838 who was named for his dead sibling as, indeed, Eliza Ann may have been.
This research has certainly become a lot more interesting than I thought it would be thanks to your help Willsy.
Knight, Bates, Newton, Pick,Perkins, Marshall, North, Kilby, Beckett, Prince.