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Catherine Black
« on: Thursday 17 August 17 13:36 BST (UK) »
Hi,
I'm looking for any information on my ancestor Catherine Black.
She was married to Alexander Ross and they had three children that I know of who were born in Glasgow. They were Isabella born in 1779, John (not sure when) and Colin who was born in 1792 and married Julianne Smith, who was born June 1814 in Campbletown.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks
Richard
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Re: Catherine Black
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 August 17 14:08 BST (UK) »
I dunno if these are all the same family or different ones.
They are all from the IGI.

Name                   John Ross
Christening:   28 Feb 1774, KILFINAN, ARGYLL, SCOTLAND
Father:           Alexander Ross
Mother:           Katharine Black

Name                   Colin Ross
Christening:   25 Feb 1776, GREENOCK, RENFREW, SCOTLAND
Father:            Alexander Ross
Mother:            Catherine Black

Name                    Isabell Ross
Birth:            23 Dec 1779
Christening:    06 Jan 1780, GREENOCK, RENFREW, SCOTLAND
Father:             Alexander Ross
Mother:             Catherine Black

Name                    Isabell Ross
Birth:            19 Sep 1781
Christening:    23 Sep 1781, GREENOCK, RENFREW, SCOTLAND
Father:             Alexander Ross
Mother:            Catherine Black

Name:        Colin Ross
Birth:        12 December 1792
Christening:    16 December 1792, Barony, Lanark, Scotland
Father:             Alexander Ross
Mother:            Catherine Black

Name:       Ann Ross
Birth:       17 September 1797
Christening:    1 October 1797, Barony, Lanark, Scotland
Father:            Alexander Ross
Mother:            Catherine Black
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Re: Catherine Black
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 August 17 14:21 BST (UK) »
I cannae see a marriage for Colin & Julian but this is in the IGI.

Name           Mary Ann Ross
Birth:   30 Nov 1855, ANDERSTON, GLASGOW, LANARK, SCOTLAND
Father:   Colin Ross
Mother:   Julian Smith

With the birth being in 1855 the certificate should tell you how many kids they had as well as their marriage date.
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Re: Catherine Black
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 August 17 15:35 BST (UK) »
This is Colin before his marriage to Julian.

1841 census: Place: Gorbals –Lanarkshire:Address: King Street
LIVINGSTON Flora    50   Independent        Outside Census County (1841)
LIVINGSTON  John   15       Independent    Outside Census County (1841)
LIVINGSTON Donald 8       Independent    Outside Census County (1841)
ROSS    Colin        45       Painter        Lanarkshire
STUART Mattie  F   42       Independent        Ireland   
HENDERSON Angus    25       Seaman    Outside Census County (1841)
MCFAYDEN    Lachlan 20       Seaman    Outside Census County (1841)

1851 census: Place: Barony -Lanarkshire Address: 7 Piccadilly Street
MCILWHAM    James    Head    50   Boilermaker Journeyman        Ireland
MCILWHAM       Janet   Wife    48                                                Ireland
MCILWHAM       Margaret       Dau 18       Steam Loom Weaver Cotton    Ireland
MEARNS       James  Visitr   40       Painter Journeyman      Fife – Couper
ROSS    Colin   Visitr       U      58       Painter Journeyman        Lanarkshire – Barony
IRVINE  Catherine  Visitr    U   35       Steam Loom Weaver Cotton        Ireland

This Colin is the one born in Barony in 1792
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Re: Catherine Black
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 17 August 17 16:46 BST (UK) »
Thanks Buckhyne,
Do you think there's a chance it's the same family who moved around and the duplicate of names is because the first child born who was given that name died?
I know Mary Ann Ross married Daniel Ferguson who was a painter and they lived in Greenock, where future generations also lived.
McGrorey, Loughrey, Briggs, Gribbin, Ferguson, Hunt(O)Connor(s), Danehy, Young, McGarrity, Doran, Jones, Vernon, Oakes, Williams, Alexander, Ross, O'Niel, McMullan, Lightbowne, Siddorn, Ryecroft, Bellowhouse, Walker, Gourley, Fagan, Havelin, Campbell, Smith, Thompson, Black, McCallum, Wilson, Loudon.

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Re: Catherine Black
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 August 17 17:56 BST (UK) »
Thanks Buckhyne,
Do you think there's a chance it's the same family who moved around and the duplicate of names is because the first child born who was given that name died?
I know Mary Ann Ross married Daniel Ferguson who was a painter and they lived in Greenock, where future generations also lived.
It's very possible it's the same family but there's no way of telling without some info. Even if it is the same family it's no helping much without a marriage for Alex & Catherine.
I have a copy of the pre-1855 MI's for Renfrewshire but there's nothing standing out for Ross & Black in Greenock.
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Re: Catherine Black
« Reply #6 on: Friday 18 August 17 13:06 BST (UK) »
Ok, Thank you for your help.
I don't suppose you could help me with the Ferguson side of my family in Greenock then could you please?? :) ;) ;)
McGrorey, Loughrey, Briggs, Gribbin, Ferguson, Hunt(O)Connor(s), Danehy, Young, McGarrity, Doran, Jones, Vernon, Oakes, Williams, Alexander, Ross, O'Niel, McMullan, Lightbowne, Siddorn, Ryecroft, Bellowhouse, Walker, Gourley, Fagan, Havelin, Campbell, Smith, Thompson, Black, McCallum, Wilson, Loudon.

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Re: Catherine Black
« Reply #7 on: Friday 18 August 17 13:18 BST (UK) »
Ok, Thank you for your help.
I don't suppose you could help me with the Ferguson side of my family in Greenock then could you please?? :) ;) ;)
The only thing I have regarding Greenock is the pre-1855 MI's for Renfrewshire.
Is that any good ?
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Re: Catherine Black
« Reply #8 on: Friday 18 August 17 13:41 BST (UK) »
Not sure really, but I have Robert Ferguson born Greenock 1854,who's father Robert Ferguson was married to Mary Wilson, but not sure when.
Robert was born in 1829 and his father, Robert was married to Elizabeth McCallum, but not sure when either?
Any dates you could provide would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers
Richard
McGrorey, Loughrey, Briggs, Gribbin, Ferguson, Hunt(O)Connor(s), Danehy, Young, McGarrity, Doran, Jones, Vernon, Oakes, Williams, Alexander, Ross, O'Niel, McMullan, Lightbowne, Siddorn, Ryecroft, Bellowhouse, Walker, Gourley, Fagan, Havelin, Campbell, Smith, Thompson, Black, McCallum, Wilson, Loudon.