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1881 - Francis John Clarke
« on: Thursday 17 August 17 14:12 BST (UK) »
Hello,

I'm looking for my 2nd great grandfather, Francis John Clarke, in the 1881 census and having particular issues finding him.

Francis John Clarke, B. 1876. Doddiscombsleigh, Devon. Died 1951
I have the birth and death certificate for Francis, he never appeared to marry my 2nd great grandmother...

Birth certificate shows Father, John Clarke and mother Susan Cox.

They appear to have had a number of children -

William Thomas Clarke
Laura Mary Clarke
Frances M Clarke - 1877 -
Caroline Emma Clarke
Reginald Clarke
Ethel Clarke
Annie Clarke
Lilian Clarke

I've found them in the 1881 census with Frances M shown residing. However, no Francis John....

I've also found a death certificate (although not ordered yet...) for Frances M. He (yes, you read that right. He) died in 1954.

Could someone take a look for me, I've been trying for  a few weeks and I can't see the Clarkes for Clarks....

Thanks,

Richard

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Re: 1881 - Francis John Clarke
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 August 17 14:26 BST (UK) »
I have checked all the births on GRO for this family and I am of the opinion that the "M" is an error and that it is your Francis John.


CLARKE, WILLIAM  THOMAS mmn COX 
GRO Reference: 1873  S Quarter in ST THOMAS  Volume 05B  Page 75

CLARKE, LAURA  MARY mmn COX
GRO Reference: 1874  D Quarter in ST THOMAS  Volume 05B  Page 75

CLARKE, FRANCIS  JOHN mmn COX
GRO Reference: 1876  D Quarter in ST THOMAS  Volume 05B  Page 70

CLARKE, CAROLINE  EMMA mmn COX
GRO Reference: 1878  J Quarter in ST THOMAS  Volume 05B  Page 53

CLARKE, ALBERT  JAMES mmn COX 
GRO Reference: 1880  S Quarter in ST THOMAS  Volume 05B  Page 78

CLARKE, REGINALD mmn COX
GRO Reference: 1882  M Quarter in ST THOMAS  Volume 05B  Page 75

CLARKE, ETHEL  FLORENCE mmn COX     
GRO Reference: 1884  M Quarter in ST THOMAS  Volume 05B  Page 77

CLARKE, ANNIE mmn COX
GRO Reference: 1888  M Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 779

CLARKE, LILIAN  ELLEN mmn COX 
GRO Reference: 1889  M Quarter in NEWTON ABBOT  Volume 05B  Page 164

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Re: 1881 - Francis John Clarke
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 August 17 15:04 BST (UK) »
I have done the same as Jamjar and I also think the census entry is wrong.

Which death record are you considering getting  :-\
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Re: 1881 - Francis John Clarke
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 August 17 15:21 BST (UK) »
I have done the same as Jamjar and I also think the census entry is wrong.

Which death record are you considering getting  :-\

I can't see the family on the 1891 census, can you Rosie?

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Re: 1881 - Francis John Clarke
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 17 August 17 15:31 BST (UK) »
1891
14 St Wellesly Rd Torquay
Susan E Clarke 39 widowed washerwoman bn Devon
William J 18 porter
Laura M 17 bn Ashton Devon
Caroline E 13 bn Woodbury xxx Devon
Reginald 9
Ethel F 7
Annie E 5
Lilian E 2  bn Torquay
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: 1881 - Francis John Clarke
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 August 17 16:09 BST (UK) »
1891
14 St Wellesly Rd Torquay
Susan E Clarke 39 widowed washerwoman bn Devon
William J 18 porter
Laura M 17 bn Ashton Devon
Caroline E 13 bn Woodbury xxx Devon
Reginald 9
Ethel F 7
Annie E 5
Lilian E 2  bn Torquay

Mm, looks like Francis is AWOL.  ;)

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Re: 1881 - Francis John Clarke
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 17 August 17 16:14 BST (UK) »
Hello,

I'm looking for my 2nd great grandfather, Francis John Clarke, in the 1881 census and having particular issues finding him.

Francis John Clarke, B. 1876. Doddiscombsleigh, Devon. Died 1951
I have the birth and death certificate for Francis, he never appeared to marry my 2nd great grandmother...


Where do you have him on census with your grandmother  :-\
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Re: 1881 - Francis John Clarke
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 17 August 17 16:17 BST (UK) »
Maybe (for 1891) ? ?

19 Lucins Str, Tormoham
H/H of Emily Watton, greengrocer and family
Frank Clarke 16 Errand boy bn Christow 

 (Christow is where several of the siblings were born, who were with mum on 1891, though I didn't type them all in) And it is where the family were living in 1881, when Francis J was little.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: 1881 - Francis John Clarke
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 17 August 17 16:22 BST (UK) »
Reginald with sister Laura on the 1901:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSWG-4TN

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