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Re: William Riddoch's birth year
« Reply #9 on: Friday 18 August 17 00:40 BST (UK) »
1851 SP Index PIRIE which appears to be 2 different households (next door to each other or over 2
pages);

ISABEL 70          146/ 2/ 10 Alvah Banff
ELSPET 50
JOHN 46
ANNE 45
JAMES 41         
   
JEAN 21              146/ 2/ 11 Alvah Banff
ANN 18         
JAMES 11
JOHN 8                 
WILLIAM 6
ELIZABETH 0

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The 1851 census was taken on Sunday 30 March i.e. that may be WILLIAM aged 6 WKS?

I would strongly advise a look at the 2 original census pages (not just the index) to be sure of ages & relationships at a total cost of £3.00bp to put your mind at rest?
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: William Riddoch's birth year
« Reply #10 on: Friday 18 August 17 03:23 BST (UK) »
I checked the original census page and it's pretty washed out but clearly no baby William.
Smith (Midlothian, Scotland); Riddoch, Fraser, Tait, Stewart, McGilvery (Banffshire/Aberdeenshire, Scotland)
Foster, Stevens (Cambridgeshire, England); Adams, Knowles (Somerset, England); Smith, Manning (Southwark/Bermondsey, England)

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Re: William Riddoch's birth year
« Reply #11 on: Friday 18 August 17 03:29 BST (UK) »
The William in the 1851 James and Anne Pirie census seems to be Jane/Jean Pirie's younger brother:

William, Lawful son of James Pirie, Crofter, Hill of Deuchries, and of Anne Henry, was born at Milbethill in the parish of Marnoch on the 16th day of August 1844 - and baptized on the 4th October in the same year by the Revered David Henry Free Church Minister of Marnoch in presence of James Morrison, Petterden, and William Wilson, Milbethill, witnesses
Smith (Midlothian, Scotland); Riddoch, Fraser, Tait, Stewart, McGilvery (Banffshire/Aberdeenshire, Scotland)
Foster, Stevens (Cambridgeshire, England); Adams, Knowles (Somerset, England); Smith, Manning (Southwark/Bermondsey, England)

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Re: William Riddoch's birth year
« Reply #12 on: Friday 18 August 17 03:39 BST (UK) »
Have you found him in later census' to be sure he didn't die young? (James & Anne's son).

My thought was if the son William had died pre statutory it's unlikely to be recorded although not impossible & the census for 1851 would determine which William it was i.e. killing 2 birds with one stone & at least finding out whether there was a Clergy error with your William if he's not the one on 1851?

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"


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Re: William Riddoch's birth year
« Reply #13 on: Friday 18 August 17 04:01 BST (UK) »
It looks like 1844 William married Margaret Symon in May 1870. Tragically, she died in January 1871 of scarlet fever and William was enumerated at his father home in 1871.
Smith (Midlothian, Scotland); Riddoch, Fraser, Tait, Stewart, McGilvery (Banffshire/Aberdeenshire, Scotland)
Foster, Stevens (Cambridgeshire, England); Adams, Knowles (Somerset, England); Smith, Manning (Southwark/Bermondsey, England)

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Re: William Riddoch's birth year
« Reply #14 on: Friday 18 August 17 04:23 BST (UK) »
I would say there was a cleric error with William's baptism year from that?

Likely 1852 instead of 1851?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: William Riddoch's birth year
« Reply #15 on: Friday 18 August 17 04:29 BST (UK) »
I checked the original census page and it's pretty washed out but clearly no baby William.

Sorry, missed this post....it's also possible he was in his crib sleeping & just not added which with the amount of bodies in the house could be easily forgotten  :-\

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: William Riddoch's birth year
« Reply #16 on: Friday 18 August 17 04:31 BST (UK) »
It sounds like the Kirk Session minutes might be the best way to sort this out. I just have to figure out how to access them from Canada.

Thank you all for your help!

Richard
Smith (Midlothian, Scotland); Riddoch, Fraser, Tait, Stewart, McGilvery (Banffshire/Aberdeenshire, Scotland)
Foster, Stevens (Cambridgeshire, England); Adams, Knowles (Somerset, England); Smith, Manning (Southwark/Bermondsey, England)

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Re: William Riddoch's birth year
« Reply #17 on: Friday 18 August 17 04:34 BST (UK) »
You could request a look-up & explain the memorial which is being planned for him.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"