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Offline Joyce C

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Where and when was this photo taken please?
« on: Friday 18 August 17 20:38 BST (UK) »
The attached photo is of my gt grandfather Walter Brewerton Berry (sitting 2nd from left) and I would like to know if anybody can identify where and when it was taken. I don't think anybody else on the photo is related.

My thoughts are that it could be Pontefract Workhouse which was a hospital around the time I think the photo was taken. Walter was working there as an Engineer at the time of the 1911 census. Online photos of the workhouse do seem to resemble the building on the photo.

However it has been suggested that it is Leeds General Infirmary although I cannot see the resemblance from online photos.

Any thoughts very much appreciated.

Bob
Oldham - Williams Sutcliffe Brett/Britt Milner Moran
Rochdale - Shaw
Saddleworth - Winterbottom Whitehead Broadbent

Leeds - Berry, Chadwick
Womersley, Knottingley, Campsall - Pearson, Atkinson
Banffshire - Calder, Craib, Bremner
Birkenhead (Tranmere) - Roberts, Verrinder

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Re: Where and when was this photo taken please?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 18 August 17 21:30 BST (UK) »
I Can't help with the where but the when I would say would most likely be the Edwardian era.
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Re: Where and when was this photo taken please?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 19 August 17 10:35 BST (UK) »
There's information about Pontefract Workhouse on the Workhouses website - http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Pontefract/  Some of the photos there show a doorway with steps leading up to it, that seems quite similar to this one.

If this is at the workhouse, the couple with children seated in the middle are likely to be the master and his family, so I tried looking for them in the 1911 census. They are listed as Frederick Robert Lundy (56), wife Annie (42) and children Marjorie (8 ) and Charles Frederick (6) - RG14/27486 p1.

If the photo was taken in about 1910-1912, I'd say that was a pretty good match - I also felt that Walter Brewerton Berry (45 in 1911) didn't look quite old enough for a date as late as 1915.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Where and when was this photo taken please?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 19 August 17 13:58 BST (UK) »
Thank you

That is in line with my thoughts.

Bob
Oldham - Williams Sutcliffe Brett/Britt Milner Moran
Rochdale - Shaw
Saddleworth - Winterbottom Whitehead Broadbent

Leeds - Berry, Chadwick
Womersley, Knottingley, Campsall - Pearson, Atkinson
Banffshire - Calder, Craib, Bremner
Birkenhead (Tranmere) - Roberts, Verrinder

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Re: Where and when was this photo taken please?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 19 August 17 14:12 BST (UK) »
I'm starting to think now that the gentleman I thought was Walter Brewerton Berry is actually Frederick Robert Lundy (looks as though he was bn 1854 Hull so the right age to match the photo).

In that case I wonder who my relative is??? I can't remember where the photo came from originally.

Bob
Oldham - Williams Sutcliffe Brett/Britt Milner Moran
Rochdale - Shaw
Saddleworth - Winterbottom Whitehead Broadbent

Leeds - Berry, Chadwick
Womersley, Knottingley, Campsall - Pearson, Atkinson
Banffshire - Calder, Craib, Bremner
Birkenhead (Tranmere) - Roberts, Verrinder

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Re: Where and when was this photo taken please?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 19 August 17 14:34 BST (UK) »
Other than the one you first mentioned (seated 2nd left, which I assume means next to the young girl) looking less than 50 years old (which WBB would have been c1915), I wouldn't really like to speculate on which of the men he might be. I wonder if anything can be deduced from what they're wearing? The census listing shows a number of staff, though of course there may be others who lived off site and aren't listed at the institution.

Because of the composition of the photo and the position he was known to hold, I'm more or less certain that Frederick Robert Lundy, the master, will be the one seated just off centre, with his wife to his right (left as we see it in the photo), and their children in front.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Where and when was this photo taken please?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 19 August 17 15:09 BST (UK) »
Hello

Looking at another (very poor) photo that I have I now think it is of Frederick Lundy, wife, children and the nurse who is standing centre back on the other photo. I have looked at the names of the nurses on the 1911 census, and I think the photo is around that date, and there are no names familiar to me at all.  So probably not Walter Brewerton Berry at all, a mystery.

Bob
Oldham - Williams Sutcliffe Brett/Britt Milner Moran
Rochdale - Shaw
Saddleworth - Winterbottom Whitehead Broadbent

Leeds - Berry, Chadwick
Womersley, Knottingley, Campsall - Pearson, Atkinson
Banffshire - Calder, Craib, Bremner
Birkenhead (Tranmere) - Roberts, Verrinder

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Where and when was this photo taken please?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 19 August 17 15:57 BST (UK) »
Is there any reason why Walter Brewerton Berry couldn't be one of the men standing on the back row?
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Where and when was this photo taken please?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 19 August 17 16:22 BST (UK) »
I'm thinking it's more to do with the nurse as she appears in the other photo that I have but none of the men do apart from who we are taking to be Frederick Lundy.

Bob
Oldham - Williams Sutcliffe Brett/Britt Milner Moran
Rochdale - Shaw
Saddleworth - Winterbottom Whitehead Broadbent

Leeds - Berry, Chadwick
Womersley, Knottingley, Campsall - Pearson, Atkinson
Banffshire - Calder, Craib, Bremner
Birkenhead (Tranmere) - Roberts, Verrinder

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk