Benjamin Thomas and wife Elizabeth 1881 onwards

[roycymru]

Hi that's the census, marriage certificate?
Keyboard86

Father Richard Edmund Caerbigin on marriage cert

OK did Elizabeth have a sister Sarah who possibly married the brother of Benjamin?

1881 census:-

John Thomas 39
Sarah 36
Margaret 8
Elizabeth 4
Jane 2
William 10 months
Richard Edmund 70 Father in Law
Residing Caerbigin
Census ref RG11/5378/22/10
Keyboard86

Sarah was her sister though I don't have her husband John Thomas as a brother of Benjamin. The children in the GRO therefore are hers. Wondering if Elizabeth dies before 1881?

[keyboard86]

  With a surname of Thomas anywhere in Wales a task indeed finding a plausible death if in fact Elizabeth died pre 1881, then again possibly Benjamin died and she remarried as a Thomas?!
For info in 1891 Richard Edmund is 81 and new addition to Thomas household a Hannah E aged 8 residing Caerbegin
Census ref RG12/4499/22/8
Keyboard86

[keyboard86]

Hi again, the two births that do not appear with the John Thomas/Sarah Edmund/s family in 1881 are William 1874 and Margaret 1876, there are possible deaths for them prior to 1881 Llanelly, and two deaths of an Elizabeth aged 23 or 25 in 1876 Llanelly?
Also a possible remarriage of a Benjamin Thomas in June qtr 1877 Llanelly?
What was the occupation of Benjamin at marriage?
Keyboard86

[roycymru]

Hi again, the two births that do not appear with the John Thomas/Sarah Edmund/s family in 1881 are William 1874 and Margaret 1876, there are possible deaths for them prior to 1881 Llanelly, and two deaths of an Elizabeth aged 23 or 25 in 1876 Llanelly?
Also a possible remarriage of a Benjamin Thomas in June qtr 1877 Llanelly?
What was the occupation of Benjamin at marriage?
Keyboard86

Thanks for all your help.  I have just ordered the marriage certificate so won't know more about Benjamin for a couple of weeks. Once I have this then this should help narrow things down.  There aren't too many Benjamin Thomas about so Elizabeth may well have died early in her marriage if the marriage for Benjamin you found is him remarrying. I will update once I have more info on Benjamin. Thanks again

[roycymru]

Would appreciate if someone could check in 1891 for Benjamin thomas and wife Elizabeth (born 1852 Llanelly) as well, just in case not in 1881 census or mistranscribed as have seen similar previously. Thanks

[roycymru]

Finally got the marriage certificate 03/06/1873

Benjamin Thomas age 20, batchelor, engine worker, address Waungyrchydd?? Llanelly, father Jason Thomas Farm Bailiff

Elizabeth Edmunds, age 20, spinster, Caerbigin Llanelly, father Richard Edmunds, Farmer

Can anyone find Benjamin 1871 and earlier and Benjamin and Elizabeth 1881 and later?

Thanks

[osprey]

1871 Waungrychydd, Hengoed RG10/5468 folio71 pg 5
Jason  Thomas head mar 52 ag lab b. Pembs, Lampeter
Sophia wife 53 b. Carms, Larne
Mary dau 19 b. Carms, Common Church
Benjamin son 18 ag lab b. Common Church
Hannah dau 14 b. Carms, Lansilffon
Sophia grand dau 8 b. Pembrey (Blind)

[osprey]

1861, Lodge, Llanstephan RG9/4138 folio 61 pg 6
Jason Thomas 40 ag lab b. Pembs, Lampeter
Sophia wife 41 b. Carms, Laugharne
Mary dau 10 b. Pembs, Eglwys Cummin
Benjamin son 8 b. Eglwys Cummin
Anna dau 3 b. Llanstephan

The geography seems a little fluid   

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CMN/EglwysCymyn

[osprey]

1851 Welson Vach, Eglwys Cumin, Narberth HO107/2475 folio 322 pg 17
Jason Thomas 30 ag lab b. Pembs, Lampeter Velfry
Sophia wife 32 b. Carms, Lanauck?
John son 9 b.  Laugharne
Eliz^th dau 7 b. Laugharne
Tho^s son 4b. Laugharne
Daniel son 2 b Llanfinnin?
Mary 1 month b. Eglwys Cumin

Jason and Sophia as Thomas in Laugharne in 1841 HO107/1382/9 folio 10 pg 13,
Marriage appears to be dec qtr 1840 Carmarthen vol 26 691 Jason Thomas & Sophia Lewis on the same page

In 1881 Jason is enumerated as farm bailiff.