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HELP: Chelsea Pensioner, Murdoch Matheson
« on: Saturday 19 August 17 22:41 BST (UK) »
Looking for information on Murdoch Matheson and Chelsea Pensioner.

Murdoch Matheson born about 1813, Lochalsh Ross Shire. Lived and died in Inverness in 1867. He is on the 1851 and -61 census with his family. Looking for information on sons, George Dougal and Angus.

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Re: HELP: Chelsea Pensioner, Murdoch Matheson
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 20 August 17 00:42 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat

1861 has no son George.  Sons are Dugald aged 7 and Angus  5.  Also a son Duncan aged 17

Have you looked for them on the various censuses?  Have you checked for marriages on Scotlands People
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Re: HELP: Chelsea Pensioner, Murdoch Matheson
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 20 August 17 01:14 BST (UK) »
To follow on from Carole's info. on Duncan being a son too...

Could the mother of Dugald & Angus have been a 2nd marriage as there's quite a gap between the siblings?

Who was the mother of Dugald & Angus?

Which area in Inverness did the family live/births occur?

Can you provide all info. known please?


Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: HELP: Chelsea Pensioner, Murdoch Matheson
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 20 August 17 02:41 BST (UK) »
Anne I can provide what I have Mother Was Mary McDonald.
Generation One

1.   Murdoch Matheson, b. Abt    1813 in Lochalsh, d. 13 Aug 1867 in Inverness, Inverness Shire, Scotland.  Joined the 72nd Highlanders
   Resided in Inverness had 15 Children
   Chelsee Pensioner
   4 Young St., Inverness in 1851 Pensioner
   7 Kings Lane, Inverness in 1861
   9 Waterloo St, Inverness in 1867. He married Mary McDonald, 09 Nov 1835 in Portree, Inverness Shire, Scotland, b. Abt    1815 in Kiltarlity, Inverness Shire, Scotland, d. 14 May 1864 in Inverness, Inverness Shire, Scotland.
            Children:
            i.   George Matheson, b. Abt    1840 in B.S Canada.
            ii.   Duncan Matheson, b. Abt    1844 in Fort ?, Upper Canada,, d. Feb 1904 in Wrexham, Wales, buried 17 Feb 1904 in Wrexham Cemetery.  1881, Wrexham Regis, Denbighshire, Wales, No 23 Crescent Terrace
            Employing 3 men and one boy. He married Martha  ?, b. Abt    1845 in Ayrshire, Scotland.
        2.   iii.   Margaret Matheson b. Abt    1851.
            iv.   Dugald Matheson, b. 19 Apr 1852 in Inverness, Inverness Co., N.S.  Baptised by Rev. Alexander McGregor. Church of Scotland.
            v.   Angus Matheson, b. Abt    1856 in Inverness, Inverness Shire, Scotland.
            vi.   Ronald MacDonald Matheson, b. 10 Apr 1861 in Inverness, Inverness Shire, Scotland, d. 11 Apr 1861 in Inverness, Inverness Shire, Scotland.




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Re: HELP: Chelsea Pensioner, Murdoch Matheson
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 20 August 17 03:00 BST (UK) »
Murdoch Matheson born about 1813, Lochalsh Ross Shire. Lived and died in Inverness in 1867. He is on the 1851 and -61 census with his family. Looking for information on sons, George Dougal and Angus.

My theory of a 2nd marriage is no longer as the gap isn't what it 1st seemed...

1851 County Inverness, Dist. Inverness 098/ 20/ 4

Murdoch 37
Mary 36
George 11
Duncan 7
Margaret 2

1861 County Inverness, Dist. Inverness 098/ 14/ 27 & 098/ 14/ 28 (over 2 pages)

Murdoch 48
Mary 44
Duncan 17
Margeret 10
Dugald 7
Angus 5

There's a death 1911 which would almost fit & the only George in INV with a birth date of 1840 +/- 3  :-\

MATHESON GEORGE 74 1911
098/A 343
Inverness

I didn't find a marriage in INV nor have I checked subsequent census' after 1861

Annie

Edit...Red alert while posting, will read after I post  ;)







South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: HELP: Chelsea Pensioner, Murdoch Matheson
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 20 August 17 03:13 BST (UK) »
Anne: I was given a phone number to call the Inverness Crematorium, I wonder if that would reveal anything?
As far as burial is concerned, you could try phoning Inverness Crematorium (01463-717849) who keep records for Tomnahurich Cemetery which was the main cemetery at that time. They have lair records from 1864 (for private graves top of the hill).

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Re: HELP: Chelsea Pensioner, Murdoch Matheson
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 20 August 17 03:21 BST (UK) »
Can I attach a document for you to look at I have the 1911 death record, not the right person

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Re: HELP: Chelsea Pensioner, Murdoch Matheson
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 20 August 17 03:27 BST (UK) »
            i.   George Matheson, b. Abt    1840 in B.S Canada.
            ii.   Duncan Matheson, b. Abt    1844 in Fort ?, Upper Canada,,
        2.   iii.   Margaret Matheson b. Abt    1851.
            iv.   Dugald Matheson, b. 19 Apr 1852 in Inverness, Inverness Co., N.S. 
            v.   Angus Matheson, b. Abt    1856 in Inverness, Inverness Shire, Scotland.

That just might explain why I couldn't find baptisms in my searches although I couldn't find Angus born in Inverness, Inverness-shire either  ::)

There's 3 possibles mainly relating to Skye where Murdoch married Mary...

MATHESON ANGUS 1857
114/ 68 Portree

MATHESON ANGUS 1855
112/2 8 Stenscholl

MATHESON ANGUS 1855
119/ 18 Strath

Annie

Added....Yes you can post the doc. & if it needs cropped a Mod will let you know.
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: HELP: Chelsea Pensioner, Murdoch Matheson
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 20 August 17 03:35 BST (UK) »
How do I attach a document