missing from census forms Joseph Dunbar born 1875

[Rosezi]

Searching for Joseph Dunbar, born 1875 Birkenhead, baptised Liverpool 1878. Parents were Alexander and Margaret Dunbar. Joseph does not appear on any census forms, his father was a mariner and never at home, and his mother was living alone as a lodger in 1881. I also cannot see a  death record for him. Possible he either left for the States like his brother Daniel or joined merchant navy, but not found any records yet

[KGarrad]

Birkenhead was in Cheshire, rather than Lancashire

Have you searched on FreeBMD or CheshireBMD for a death?


Baptism was on 8 October 1875, at Holy Trinity, Birkenhead, Cheshire
Joseph son of Alexander and Margaret Dunbar


Is this his marriage?
March qtr 1896
Birkenhead Registration District     vol 8a, page 703
Dunbar, Joseph
+Brides on the same page +
Boylan, Elizabeth
Roberts, Mary Jane

[BumbleB]

CheshireBMD show that he married Mary Jane Roberts - Civil marriage or Registrar attended.

[KGarrad]

GRO Index search shows mother's maiden name as Dunbar.

There is also a birth for an Alexander Dunbar, mmn Dunbar 1881, September qtr Liverpool.
Unfortunately he dies in the same quarter.

Could Margaret be in the Infirmary for the census?

[JenB]

CheshireBMD show that he married Mary Jane Roberts - Civil marriage or Registrar attended.

I think that is a different person 

The 1901 Census shows a Joseph Dunbar born Birkenhead with wife Mary Jane and three step-children named Roberts. But his birth date is 1861    RG 13 / 3390 / 175 / 5

[gortonboy]

there are a couple of merchany navy records for a Joseph Dunbar b 1876 Liverpool.  A ships cook. I cant see a birth record for a Joseph Dunbar b 1876 or close in Liverpool....so i wonder if these records relate to him? One of the records is his cr10 card,which includes a photo.

[JenB]

Is this Margaret in 1881?

RG 11/ 3601 / 84 / 27

1 Ho[use] 4 Court, Princes Street, Liverpool

Margaret Dunbar, wife, mar, 32, wife of seaman, Ireland
Daniel do, son, 8, scholar, Liverpool
William do, 4, do
Mary Ann do, 2, do

[Rosezi]

Thanks for the searches, the marriage to a Mary Roberts was his uncle also called Joseph Dunbar born 1861 Birkenhead. The merchant record with the photo looks like a good match, I saw this a while ago, but need more evidence this is him. Joseph and his brothers were all born in Birkenhead but they all moved to Liverpool.

The 1881 census for Prince's Walk is definitely his mother and siblings.

[CaroleW]

I suspect you already have this info

Deaths June qtr 1888   
Margaret Dunbar    36    Liverpool    8b   9

Marriage 8.10.1888 St Pauls Liverpool

Alexander Dunbar widower - seaman 3 Ct Regent St - father Daniel (deceased)
Maria Mullen widow 3 Ct Regent St father Peter Riley deceased

1891 census 12 Snowden St - all b Liverpool.  It looks like you have reported the name as Dunbar back in 2015

Maria Mullen   40 married - canvas bag maker
Mary Mullen   15
William Mullen   16
Annie Garvey   70 lodger

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