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Helen McLellan - West Indies
« on: Tuesday 22 August 17 20:41 BST (UK) »
Hello,

For a friend, I am looking for his ancestress Helen MC LELLAN or MCLELLAN.

Helen MC LELLAN was a sister of Thomas MC LELLAN (he  was born around 1860). They were of British descent but the family settled in Trinidad, they lived in Port of Spain.
 
Helen MC LELLAN got married in Port of Spain in August 1875 to Cox Pearson CHAMBERS, born in Saint-Christopher (Saint-Kitts), son of a clergyman. He arrived to Trinidad in 1872 after his studies in the UK.
They got two children before 1878 : a boy in San Fernando in 1876 and a girl, Cecil, in 1877.
 
Helen CHAMBERS, née MCLELLAN, got an affair with a Frenchman, Henry DIDIER, a native of Martinique and they had a child, Georges Henri DIDIER, born in Port of Spain in 1881. The child grew up in Martinique with his father (even if Cox Person CHAMBERS divorced his wife in 1880 after a trial http://www.worldcat.org/title/report-of-the-crim-con-case-chambers-vs-didier/oclc/235942533). Henry DIDIER married a French woman in 1884.

Cox Pearson CHAMBERS worked in Demerara  (Guyana) in 1878. He was born in 1852 in Saint-Kitts and died on May 9th 1895 in Saint-John (Antigua).

Helen MCLELLAN was born circa 1856 and was a daughter of "J. G. MC LENNAN, Esq., of Leonora Estate, British Guiana" according to a newspaper article.





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Re: Helen McLellan - West Indies
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 22 August 17 21:41 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Does your friend have other proof relating to the surname as they are both very different in terms & is there anything at all relating to where J G was born e.g. Scotland/England etc?...

"Helen MCLELLAN was born circa 1856 and was a daughter of J. G. MC LENNAN, Esq., of Leonora Estate, British Guiana."

The above looks as though both spellings were on the same doc?

The difference between 'Mc Lellan/McLellan" or 'nnan' with or without a space would have no impact but the difference between 'LL' & 'NN' would.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Helen McLellan - West Indies
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 22 August 17 22:12 BST (UK) »
Hello,

It comes from a newspaper the Trinidad Chronicle 24 Aug. 1875  where it's written Mc Lennan, for both of them (or the the transcript is erroneous).

Source : Births Deaths and Marriages from Port-of- Spain Newspapers 1850 – 1900. Private database compiled by K. Vaucrosson and T. Uddenberg © 2008 USA and Canada

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Re: Helen McLellan - West Indies
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 22 August 17 22:27 BST (UK) »
Do they have the spelling from the marriage of Helen which is likely more precise or any business documents for J G?

Do they have a forename for him even if the middle name is unknown?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"


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Re: Helen McLellan - West Indies
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 22 August 17 23:02 BST (UK) »
Just wondering if you have the name as McLeNNan why you have McLeLLan as the heading?

Confused  ???

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Helen McLellan - West Indies
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 22 August 17 23:15 BST (UK) »
No, none of that.
Most of the information is given by the trial.

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Re: Helen McLellan - West Indies
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 22 August 17 23:25 BST (UK) »
What is your source for McLeLLan?

It will be very difficult to pinpoint or even begin anywhere without the correct surname & at least a forename for her only parent you have which is her father.

Which surname seems to be correct?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Helen McLellan - West Indies
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 22 August 17 23:26 BST (UK) »
Just wondering if you have the name as McLeNNan why you have McLeLLan as the heading?

Confused  ???

Annie

I don't have it as MC LENNAN except for the article announcing her wedding.

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Re: Helen McLellan - West Indies
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 22 August 17 23:27 BST (UK) »
What is your source for McLeLLan?

It will be very difficult to pinpoint or even begin anywhere without the correct surname & at least a forename for her only parent you have which is her father.

Which surname seems to be correct?

Annie

If it's was an easy one, I guess, help wouldn't be needed.