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Charles H, T, or S Warner b1857 Gislingham
« on: Wednesday 23 August 17 16:45 BST (UK) »
Hope someone out there can help as I am getting nowhere very fast. I am helping my partner's Auntie Margaret with her family tree and I am now stuck!  ???

Charles H,T, or S Warner, depending on which census you look at, is listed as the grandson of Elijah Warner (1808-1891) and Susannah Warner nee Knott (1804-1879). On the 1861,1871 and 1881 census he is listed as being born in 1857 in Gislingham. The 1891 census he is just down as being born in Suffolk. I am trying to find out who his parents were. It is all a bit of a mystery.

Elijah Warner and Susannah Warner also had another grandchild who I am struggling to find the parents for. Alice M Warner born 1868 in Ipswich. She appears on the 1871 and 1881 census living with Elijah and Susannah.

Any help finding out who their parents were would be greatly appreciated, thank you, Carrie  ;) ??? ;)
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Re: Charles H, T, or S Warner b1857 Gislingham
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 23 August 17 17:00 BST (UK) »
Looks as though Alice is a child of one of the daughters

WARNER, ALICE  MARY  (No mothers maiden name on index so probably illegitimate)
1867  June Quarter
IPSWICH RD  Volume 04A  Page 628
 
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Re: Charles H, T, or S Warner b1857 Gislingham
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 23 August 17 17:02 BST (UK) »
Births Jun qtr 1856 
Charles Thomas Cousin Warner       
Hartismere    4a   503

This ties in with 1861 census Charles T C Warner

also no mmn on index
Possibly daughter Elizabeth who is still living at home though the birth certificate is the only way to confirm it in the absence of a baptism  Later post (reply 4) has mother as Susanna as per baptism
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Re: Charles H, T, or S Warner b1857 Gislingham
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 23 August 17 17:17 BST (UK) »
Thank you for that, I was beginning to think that myself but can't decide which of the daughters they belong to. :D think I'll have to get hold of the birth certificates to solve this little mystery  ;D
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Re: Charles H, T, or S Warner b1857 Gislingham
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 23 August 17 17:27 BST (UK) »
Charles Thomas Cousin Warner
Christening   29 Jun 1856
Gislingham, Suffolk
Mother Susanna Warner
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Re: Charles H, T, or S Warner b1857 Gislingham
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 23 August 17 18:17 BST (UK) »
That solves that little mystery then, thank you again for your help. Next thing......find the father.... Do you think he could have the surname Cousin? xx  :D ???
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Re: Charles H, T, or S Warner b1857 Gislingham
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 24 August 17 08:13 BST (UK) »
Most likely he is Cousin/Cousins - there is plenty of choice  ??? 
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Re: Charles H, T, or S Warner b1857 Gislingham
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 24 August 17 12:25 BST (UK) »
In case you havent picked up on it;

1851 Census
Camberwell, Surrey
Will Henderson, 44, Head, Mar, Cooper
Mary Henderson, 40, Wife, Mar, born Girlington, Suffolk
Susannah Warner, 20, Neice, born Girlington, Suffolk

He is Wells Henderson on other Census.

Marriage;
7 July 1844, St George, Camberwell
Wells HENDERSON, full age, Bachelor, Cooper, Father JOHN Henderson, Publican
Mary KNOTT, full age, Spinster, Father SAMUEL Knott, Labourer
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Re: Charles H, T, or S Warner b1857 Gislingham
« Reply #8 on: Friday 25 August 17 11:46 BST (UK) »
In case you havent picked up on it;

1851 Census
Camberwell, Surrey
Will Henderson, 44, Head, Mar, Cooper
Mary Henderson, 40, Wife, Mar, born Girlington, Suffolk
Susannah Warner, 20, Neice, born Girlington, Suffolk

He is Wells Henderson on other Census.

Marriage;
7 July 1844, St George, Camberwell
Wells HENDERSON, full age, Bachelor, Cooper, Father JOHN Henderson, Publican
Mary KNOTT, full age, Spinster, Father SAMUEL Knott, Labourer

Thank you for that, I was wondering where she was on the 1851 census. I can't find her on the 1861 or 1871 census yet, but by 1881 she was back home with her father.  :D
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