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Re: John Morgan, died 1941 @ Heidelberg, husband of Frances Wall
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 26 August 17 12:09 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Sue.

i was bamboozled by the John Morgan/Eustace John Morgan differences and didn't know why he went missing on electoral rolls from the Eustace name. Didn't know if the John Morgan death notice was him or not. And had seen some names on electoral rolls which I thought might be his children but had no way of confirming them.

Once a death record with his parents names came through, things became clearer and the son in the army made the possible children on electoral rolls seem likely. Have since found a couple of other little bits.

Because this branch of the family is unknown to mine, and the name changes, I was a bit lost.
Things are much clearer now, for which I am very grateful.

My apology for any inconvenience.

Rodney53

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Re: John Morgan, died 1941 @ Heidelberg, husband of Frances Wall
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 26 August 17 12:13 BST (UK) »
I'd like to know when and where Mary Carberry died.

Rodney, I am assuming that it is your Geni tree. Where have you got the large list of family members from, as I see you have no dates, or sources, on the tree?

Jamjar

Edited first sentence, as I found the parents' marriage.

Atkinson; Badier; Cameron; Grant; Howie; Jardine; Jenkins; Kerr; Lawardorn; Lee; Linton; Lonie; McConnell; Morgan; Morrison; Murphy; O'Leary; Paton; Pratt; Robb; Williams

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Re: John Morgan, died 1941 @ Heidelberg, husband of Frances Wall
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 26 August 17 12:35 BST (UK) »
Wife of Charles Moore Jnr:

1934 B23244 Mary Ann Morgan Frank Smith Mary Ann Dwyer   

Funeral notice: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article1167325

Burial:

South Brisbane Cemetery
Surname: MORGAN
Given Names: MARY ANN
Date of Service: 5-2-1934
Service Type: Burial
Location: M-176

Statutory notice-to creditors, last column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article186152940

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Atkinson; Badier; Cameron; Grant; Howie; Jardine; Jenkins; Kerr; Lawardorn; Lee; Linton; Lonie; McConnell; Morgan; Morrison; Murphy; O'Leary; Paton; Pratt; Robb; Williams

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Re: John Morgan, died 1941 @ Heidelberg, husband of Frances Wall
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 26 August 17 12:55 BST (UK) »
Two Charles Morgans with wives Mary Ann makes it tricky. I don't think I have Mary Ann Carberry's death details at all. There is a reference to her being alive when her son Charles died in 1938 but have found no record of her death yet.

The Geni tree is mine. Very light on details since I've not kept working with that format. And what I tend to do is put suggested possible members then seek confirmation, which is where this thread began. And contributions such as yours have helped clarify that Eustace and John Morgan are one and the same.

The only line i know well is the Owen Orr Morgan line which is my direct line. All of the others are unknown on a personal basis, so I tread carefully.

Hard family to trace, our Morgans.

I am very grateful for all your help, and that of all others. I'm still not great with the technology of genealogy.

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Re: John Morgan, died 1941 @ Heidelberg, husband of Frances Wall
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 26 August 17 12:58 BST (UK) »
Thinking this may be the death of Mary Ann Snr, as if I remember correctly there were other family members at Parkville:

1945 83 MORGAN Mary Ann father's name unknown mother's name unknown (unknown) Place of birth: BENDIGO, Place of death: PARKVILLE aged 85

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Atkinson; Badier; Cameron; Grant; Howie; Jardine; Jenkins; Kerr; Lawardorn; Lee; Linton; Lonie; McConnell; Morgan; Morrison; Murphy; O'Leary; Paton; Pratt; Robb; Williams

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Re: John Morgan, died 1941 @ Heidelberg, husband of Frances Wall
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 26 August 17 23:00 BST (UK) »
I have not seen this at all. Tried and failed to find a record of her death. The dates certainly look consistent.
Many thanks.
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Re: John Morgan, died 1941 @ Heidelberg, husband of Frances Wall
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 27 August 17 00:33 BST (UK) »
Rodney53

Do know if the WALL family are the same family as the earlyish Victorian Settlers of the 1840's (I think)?!

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Re: John Morgan, died 1941 @ Heidelberg, husband of Frances Wall
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 27 August 17 00:39 BST (UK) »
Hello bitzar,
I'm afraid I don't have any record yet for Frances Wall, not even to firmly connect her as wife of John Morgan, but indicators are positive.
Does she (and John Morgan) appear in your research?
When (and if) I find anything, I'll certainly let you know.
Thanks.
Rodney53

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Re: John Morgan, died 1941 @ Heidelberg, husband of Frances Wall
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 27 August 17 01:04 BST (UK) »
Found child 3, as per your family tree web page:
 

At Mt Thompson Cemetery: https://www.heavenaddress.com/Charles-Moore-Morgan/842771/



The age at death given  here is not his correct age.

His parents married a couple of years after his birth in Victoria.

Marriage
MORGAN, Charles. Born St Kilda
CARBERRY, Mary Anne. Born HOTHAM.
1879. (4891)

Birth of Charles (jnr)
CARBERRY, Charles Morgan
Father Unknown
Mother Mary Ann CARBERRY
At Emerald Hill
1877. Reg 2399

The length of time between births to this couple may be noteworthy ???

Sue


 
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