Elizabeth Louisa Bethia Rust

[medpat]

Elizabeth Louisa Bethia Rust was born about 1861 Cape of Good Hope. She married Hezekiah Paddock 1876 and by 1884 had 4 daughters. Two died in infancy. All Cape of Good Hope.

I would like to know what happened to her after 1884. Her 2 surviving daughters married but I haven't found a death for her.

Hezekiah I believe returned to UK leaving ? his wife but definetely his daughters in South Africa.

 

[PaulineJ]

Birth of daughter Harriet Rebecca?

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVSH-VYGP

so he's Ezekiah (Phinnis/Finnis) Paddock on those

What record gives the last known sighting ?

is 1861 a bit on the late side for a marriage in 1876? Is she likely tohave wed that young?

[medpat]

Birth of Alice 1884 is the last known date I have for Elizabeth.

Hezekiah was born just Hezekiah Paddock but seems to have added his father's name Phineas whilst in South Africa. He was born 1852 in Walsall Staffordshire to Phineas Paddock and Rebecca Cater. He died 1922 in Mansfield Nottinghamshire.

I have all Hezekiah's details. The 2 daughters deaths I have not recorded on my tree but found them on an Ancestry tree - no deaths found on Family Search but no further info found about them. It's Elizabeth I'm interested in as it may explain Hezekiah's actions when he returned to UK.

Thank you for your interest.

[jorose]

The daughters were all baptised at Grahamstown, Komga, St Paul (to be found on familysearch), but were you aware that deaths and marriages

Harriet Rebecca - 1877 - d. 1878, aged 10 months:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01klz/
Louisa Helen - 1879
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDCL-73T
 - marriage in 1899, Ada is witness
 - she was not of full age "consent of parents" given
Ada - 1882
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDCG-QHN
 - marriage in 1904, Louisa's husband John is one of the witnesses
Alice - 1884 d. 1884 aged 14 days:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01km0/

You could keep searching forward to see if Elizabeth is in these burial records, but of course the family moved to Durban at some point as the girls married there so no guarantee.

When did Hezekiah return to the UK - before or after the daughter's marriages? Just trying to work out  if we can shorten the timespan we're looking in.

[medpat]

Hezekiah had his first child in UK in 1898, the child was registered last quarter of 1898.

He had several more children but only married their mother 18 July 1903, they went away from Mansfield to have a marriage in Nottingham at the registry office. He was using the name Isaac Paddock but named his father and place of birth correctly but took 12 years off his age. He also used Isaac Paddock for the census and lied about his age. When he died his wife registered him as Hezekiah Paddock with the correct age. He talked about going to South Africa but not about a wife or children. Talking about South Africa always made him emotional. I have been in contact with the daughter of his stepdaughter's son who was bought up by Hezekiah for several years before he died in 1922. It was the boy that found him dead in the yard of their house although it says his wife on the death cert..

I don't know if he was free to marry or not, that's why I'm interested in Elizabeth. Did she die so he was free to marry or because he was under an assumed name did he get away with bigamy.

His wife who was much younger than him, 24 years younger in fact, he died 27 March 1922 and she remarried last quarter of 1922.

[jorose]

Elizabeth also seems to have been much younger than him (aged 15 at marriage!)
When he remarried in England, did he say he was single, widowed, divorced...?

In 1899 Louisa Helen's marriage definitely says she was married with consent of parents (her husband was of age), so who gave that consent if her father was in the UK and not using his original name?

Aside from Ada, the other witness was a William Henwood May. The only immediate references I can find to him are two baptisms to William Henwood and a wife Elizabeth, which both took place in 1895 although one child was born in 1892:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2MK8-8HF

Born 13 Dec 1892, Isabella Maud, residence given Dundee
(marriage when she was 18: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDCP-FJS gives "mother's consent")
Born 16 Jun 1895, Walter, residence given Nodies/Hodies Bay, Transvaal

The possibility arises that William Henwood's wife Elizabeth was Elizabeth Rust - she would have been around 44 years old when Walter was born.

Having trouble tracking down a marriage for William Henwood - a possible brother would be Paul Henwood May who

All the following were registered with mother's maiden name Henwood
William registered Sep 1845 St Germans
(may well have married an Ellen in https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDC2-11F )
Mary Jane May registered Sep 1847 St Germans
(possibly died before 1851 census)
Rebecca Goyne May registered June 1849 St Germans,
(married 1864, age is wrong but parents Benjamin and Honour are witnesses:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDCK-FGV )
Susan Elisa May registered March 1851 St Germans
(married 1873 Durban: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDCK-VL2 )
Paul Henwood May registered March 1852 St Germans,
(married 1878 Durban: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDCK-LD6
remarried 1898 Durban: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDCL-MB3 )
Isabella May registered Jun 1854 St Germans
(married 1878 Durban: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDCK-FPD )
Samuel John May registered March 1859 St Germans
(married 1882 Durban: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDCK-GR8 )

In 1851 they are in St Germans, with William, Rebecca G, and Susan E in household:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGKJ-R63
Benjamin May and Honour Henwood married March 1845 in Devon.

Aha! Now I have a connection.
Rebecca May (possible sister of William May aka William Henwood May), had a daughter Hilda Constance King:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2MK8-628

The second witness at Ada's marriage in 1904? Hilda Constance King.

So I think there must be a strong connection between the May family and the two Paddock girls.

Finally I found this possible reference to an estate file:

DEPOT     NAB                                                                   
SOURCE    MSCE                                                                 
TYPE      LEERS                                                                 
VOLUME_NO 0                                                                     
SYSTEM    01                                                                   
REFERENCE 36309/1943                                                           
PART      1                                                                     
DESCRIPTION          MAY, ELIZABETH LOUISA BOTHA. (WIDOW).                                 
STARTING  1943                                                                 
ENDING    1943                                                     

There's also a reference to the possible death of William Henwood there:

DEPOT     NAB                                                                   
SOURCE    MSCE                                                                 
TYPE      LEER                                                                 
VOLUME_NO 0                                                                     
SYSTEM    01                                                                   
REFERENCE 21/16                                                                 
PART      1                                                                     
DESCRIPTION          MAY, WILLIAM HEUWOOD.                                                 
STARTING  19040000                                                             
ENDING    19200000                                                             
REMARKS   NO DEATH NOTICE. DATE OF DEATH FROM ESTATE COVER.

If this is Elizabeth, then you can contact EGGSA to try and get a copy:
http://www.eggsa.org/index.php/en/search/help-faqs/384-archive-documents-photographs

[medpat]

Thank you for your help.

Could have just been her mother who said she could marry and it went down as parents consent. He however knew his father had died when he married in 1903 - Phineas died 1901. He was keeping contact with people.

On his marriage cert. he said he was a bachelor aged 38, this is 1903 when in 1901 he was 39 and in 1911 57 - Hezekiah was 59 in 1911. Isaac married Mary Ann Hyatt. William Paddock, son, on both censuses with Isaac and Mary Ann born 1900 MMN Hyatt. Mary Ann Paddock registered the death cert of Hezekiah Paddock with the correct age, it was a sudden death due to a stroke.

Isaac Paddock was from Walsall according to the census reports where Hezekiah was from - it has a strong accent difficult to hide, I am from Walsall. I did look up all the contemporary  Isaacs born in the area, thankfully very few, and they were still in the Walsall area in 1901 and 1911.

I am now just trying to find Elizabeth's death to see if I have a bigamist for a gt gt uncle. Family story - he was a lay preacher - from one of his direct descendants on here who never answered me when I wrote to him. 

[Gato_Harry]

Apologies for coming about 3 years after the thread was initiated.
I been digging lots of information on a project on the May family, primarily working on the Family Search site.  I came across Elizabeth Louisa Bethia Rust and I confirmed lots of information about her, including her daughter Isabella and her son Walter.
I believe Walter May was very close to Ada. She and her husband (also Walter) are Godparents to one of his children.
In our family records, I found a Picture of Paul and William May. On this picture, there is a Lady that possibly is Elizabeth.  The picture is signed “from William & Lizzie”.  On the same picture, possibly there are young, Isabella and Walter.  I also have another portrait picture of Elizabeth and another one of one of her daughters.  Cannot confirm which one, of course.

If someone have more info to share, will be fantastic.