Frank Pepper, 1891 Census

[MacGrigor]

Hello,

Would anyone be able to locate Frank for me? He was born in 1873, in Canada, although he believed he was born in the U.S. He grew up in Cambridge, and his family were living in Sevenoaks in 1891. He was a china and glass salesman, and later a shop manager.

Thanks,

Adam

[KGarrad]

There is a Frank E Pepper, age 16 here:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:3BBR-NT2

Birthplace is Cambridgeshire.


1881 census for comparison, siblings, etc:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27C-26ZY

[Christine53]

1891 Wales Census:

John Hughes head 60
Margaret Hughes wife 60
Frank Pepper lodger 20 China Shop Assistant born Cambridge

Plas Road , Llandudno

Looks likely to me , even though the birthplace is wrong. ( As you say he grew up in Cambridge ).

[Christine53]

Have you got him after 1891 ? I believe he's in Scotland in 1901 in Rutherglen, birthplace given as british sub , America.

[MacGrigor]

Thanks to you both.

Frank E. Pepper is a different individual, and I have come across him before. The Welsh census is more likely. Thanks.

1901 he's in Lambeth, and 1911 in Eltham.

[cuffie81]

Adam,

What specific info are you after and what do you already have?


1881 Census - Cambridge, UK
Frank; age 7; born Canada
With parents John Hinson Pepper and Eliza Scarr, and various siblings
Ref RG11; Piece 1670; Folio 90; Page 10;
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27C-26HW

Older siblings Mabel and Minnie were also recorded as being born in Canada and their birth registrations are on FamilySearch and are twins. I couldn't locate a birth or baptism for Frank.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FM34-98Z

Parents marriage (?): 1870 Q3; John Hinson Pepper & Eliza Scarr; Cambridge; 03b; 788


1891 Census - Sevenoaks, Kent, UK
Father John, now widowed, with various children but not Frank.
Ref RG12; Piece 673; Folio 74; Page 57;
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVDB-4T2

I couldn't locate Frank in 1891.


1901 Census - Lambeth
Frank; age 27; born America
With wife Florence (nee Harding?)
Ref RG13; Piece 418; Folio 55; Page 40;
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9CG-C4S

Marriage (?):1896 Q3; Frank Pepper & Florence Harding; St Saviour; 1d; 98

[MacGrigor]

Hello,

I think I have found it now, thanks.

Frank's birth was not indexed, but he was born in August 1873 (according to his 1896 baptism at Newington). He did indeed marry Florence Harding in 1896, and I believe her parents were James W. and Sarah B. Harding, although this is based on a possible mistranscription by Frank for her birthplace in 1911. Other things, such as where her mother died also make sense, as both families were living in the same area (Newington). Their only child also had the middle name Sarah.

You've got the right 1901 record, and yes, his mother died in 1890, and the Peppers moved back to Cambridge by the end of 1891.

[cuffie81]

I think Frank and Florence might have had 2 daughters:

1903 Q1 Birth - Florence Sarah Irene Pepper (mmn: Harding); Southwark; 01d; 158
1904 Q4 Birth - Tryphena Ivy Lavinia Pepper (mmn: Harding); Croydon; 02a; 352
1904 Q4 Death - Tryphena Ivy Lavinia Pepper; age 3* (b1901); Wandsworth; 01d; 392

* Age from GRO's own index so ages could be days/weeks/months/years but FreeBMD has age zero so likely the age was days or weeks (as both registered in Q4).

The baptism for Tryphena, in Tooting Graveney, has parents as Frank and Florence.

[MacGrigor]

Sorry, I meant only surviving daughter. I have the baptism record for T.I.L. Pepper on my phone.

Have you any idea where I might find confirmation of Florence's parents, without having to buy the marriage certificate?